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    Abortion rights were repealed under Democrats, trans rights are being repealed under Democrats, police budgets have increased in response to BLM, and non-stop war is completely bipartisan.

    Both sides ARE bad, just because one of them sometimes offers tepid opposition doesn’t make them good. Democrats are not on your side either.

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      In fact Obama campaigned on codifiying abortion rights but when he entered office he admitted its not a priority for his administration.

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        Obama was peak liberalism. All talk, no show.

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        Then pack the courts, codify abortion rights into federal law, do some executive order bullshit, or fuck it, abolish the supreme court entirely. There’s a lot Democrats CAN do but aren’t. If we’re being very charitable, then they value made-up rules over your human rights. That’s the party you want representing you?

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          Packing the courts sets a precedent the next republican can just pack it the other direction. Before we know it we have hundreds of supreme court justices.

          Any law passed by congress can be struck down by the same supreme court as an over reach to state rights. Nevermind democrats barely have a simple majority, and can’t get past a filibuster. 3 of their simple majority come from heavily red states (Brown, Manchin, and Tester) and are up for reelection next year. Almost no way they’d vote for it, meaning they’d likely not even get it passed.

          Executive order bullshit only goes for the executive branch. Not legislative or judicial. Biden could wind up impeached for over reach at worst, but have it struck down at best, just like student loans were struck down by the supreme court, which was far more closer to the executive than abortion rights.

          The supreme court is constitutionally created, and you can’t modify the constitution without a 2/3rds of congress and 3/4ths of state legislatures. Democrats barely have a majority in congress, and only 19 state legislatures.

          It really is not that simple. If people had not been abstaining because ‘both parties are the same’ and Trump had never been elected, then we wouldn’t be in this mess.

          I agree they’re not as liberal as they should be, but the people who are voting are conservative. Until more leftists start voting, the politicians will not represent them and fascists will keep getting elected with only 20% of the population voting for them.

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            So pack the courts and then write laws to set things in stone in their favor. If Democrats don’t do it, then they’re leaving the door open for Republicans to do it. Or just have hundreds of judges, who cares? What’s the worst that could happen, our rights could be taken away? Already happening.

            They could also eliminate the filibuster and arguably should have done it ages ago. And they have a majority, why are your expectations so low? Demand more from them while you can.

            Biden has already done some executive order bullshit to protect abortion rights and I’m saying that he should do more. The 3 branches of government aren’t discrete and there’s lots of stuff that he has the power to do but isn’t doing, like allowing abortions to be done on federal property.

            And the supreme court as it is now isn’t constitutional. It was not designed to have judicial supremacy, but has grown over time to effectively become a branch of government in its own right. One that’s completely undemocratic and unaccountable to the American people. We can use the same reasoning that was used to overturn Roe v. Wade to strip the supreme court of its power without amending the constitution at all.

            I don’t think it’s fair to pin all the blame for American politics on Trump. Our issues run far deeper than that and he’s more of a symptom than a cause. Also, most people DIDN’T vote for him. He LOST the popular vote, but got to be president anyway because this county is rigged when it comes to voting. How can you say that all people need to do is vote when their votes matter so little?

            Btw communists define liberalism as the ideology that supports capitalism. Democrats and Republicans are both liberals.

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      What an absurdly simplistic view of things. All you’re doing with this “both sides” bullshit is encouraging more people to sit out the process which is how we got here in the first place. Shame on you, do fucking better.

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        That’s interesting. After I got done sitting out (in 2016, cause fuck Hilary), I voted for Biden (after Bernie dropped out) to get rid of the orange monster, and now I’m advocating for ranked-choice voting and additional parties. I’m more active than ever. Dems are bad. GOP is worse. I want true Left parties. Your rhetoric shames my desire for more options. Shame on you!

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          lol you twit. Don’t sit out any elections. Hillary would have been literally infinitely better than Trump.

          A pet rock would have been better than trump.

          Good luck with RCV, I think it’s probably a good idea, we use it in primaries in NYC and it’s done fuckall that’s been good so far.

          But get off your moral high horse and pick the thing that does the least harm if you can’t find any positives.

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        Hey so I am empathetic to your point, but also have some disagreements.

        I voted for Biden, and will again. But both sides are bad. One side is definitely worse, but doesn’t change the fact that dems are status quo, pandering, old money pearl clutchers who greatly benefit off of for profit criminal justice, and the suppression of working class. They are not my ally.

        I’m really tired of the “perfect is the enemy of good” dnc party line, while we allow good enough to be enemy of better.

        Just my thoughts. Also alot of the liberals act like this is sports or some shit. If you browse the conservative communities and the liberal ones, both sides are literally just mirroring eachother, instead of going after the people who put us here in the first place.

        I’m a lefty, and american, and the politics here are rigged. I don’t really blame the people who sit out tbh. They’re up against a power, that quite frankly, will take a fair amount of upheaval to take care of. And no one wants to do that. It’s a shitty state of affairs.

        I really hope we can get money out of politics, and have viable 3rd parties…but tbh, the dnc would try to stop that, so…they aren’t my true ally, just cause the other side is worse.

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          Our voting system (first past the post, winner take all) is keeping us in the two party system better than anything else the dnc could do. Let’s see them support ranked choice or similar.