I have been challenged in my critical support of Russia for its invasion of Ukraine by Lenin who during the First World War said it was foolish to support Germany against Russia or vice versa, and that the people should seek revolution regardless.
This is written in The Defeat of One’s Own Government in the Imperialist War
The phrase-bandying Trotsky has completely lost his bearings on a simple issue. It seems to him that to desire Russia’s defeat means desiring the victory of Germany.
In all imperialist countries the proletariat must now desire the defeat of its own government. Bukvoyed and Trotsky preferred to avoid this truth
Yeah posting in liberal online spaces is always going to be hit or miss, there’s no motivation from the other party to enter into good-faith discussions. As this event is currently ongoing, it’s probably best to ease in very gently and try to get a feel if discussing is going to be a waste of time or not, then try to focus on NATO instead of letting the other party dictate the flow towards condeming Russia.
It’s especially difficult after 4 years of Russiagate. These “tuned in” libs consent has been so manufactured and US intel being right about Russia invading sealed the deal for most of them. Biden just recently said that Putin can’t stay in power and they all cheered in every comment section everywhere lol.
It’s honestly ending up this way with everything. I honestly just need to wait for this to blow over. I tried and get people more invested in some of the elections and actions of the global south which aren’t fully in support of the US, and it just gets ignored.