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Russian President Vladimir Putin will not attend the summit of the BRICS group of nations in South Africa in August “by mutual agreement”, South Africa’s presidency said on Wednesday.
“By mutual agreement, President Vladimir Putin of the Russian Federation will not attend the summit, but the Russian Federation will be represented by Foreign Minister Mr [Sergey] Lavrov,” Vincent Magwenya, a spokesman for President Cyril Ramaphosa, said in a statement.
South Africa faced a dilemma in hosting the summit because, as a member of the International Criminal Court (ICC) which issued an arrest warrant for Putin in March for alleged war crimes, it would theoretically be required to arrest him if he were to attend.
The dilemma led to intense debate in South Africa and the West about whether the warrant would be executed, given South Africa’s stance of neutrality on the war in Ukraine and Pretoria’s historic ties to the Kremlin.
In 2015, South Africa also failed to arrest then-Sudanese leader Omar al-Bashir, who was also the subject of an ICC warrant.
The leaders of Brazil, India and South Africa will attend the summit, the presidency said.
BRICS, a bloc of emerging economic powers comprising Brazil, Russia, India and China was formed in 2019 as BRIC. South Africa joined the following year after an invitation from China, expanding the group.
Ethiopia, Iran and Argentina have also applied to join the bloc.
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😂 fearless leader my ass, that little removed is scared as shit to leave his bunker.
Yes you might say he’s shitting brics
Yes, this is the reason, he is scared.
Russia is a fascist, terrorist oligarchy on the verge of collapse.
China is a dictatorship with free hand to do genocides at home (Uygurs, Tibet etc) because they have nukes.
South Africa is almost a failed state, where due to corruption people only have electricity a few hours a day and where a separatist movement in the only functional province is growing everyday.
India is sliding fast into a nationalistic hindu dictactorship as well. Although praised for being the biggest democracy in the world, its flaws are growing constantly under Modi.
And what does Brazil want to do with this bunch? Didn’t Bolsonaro damage its image enough?
Iran and Ethiopia want to join? Wow, it can always get creepier.
Pedant here, nations cannot engage in terrorism because terrorism is done by groups that are not nation-states. What Russia does is acts of war.
So I see you’re unfamiliar with the concept of state terrorism.
No I reject the concept outright. Every act of “state terrorism” is an act of war and I challenge you to think of an act of state terrorism that would not be an act of war.
Putin is the prime suspect of several acts against his own civil population. You also call that war? Against which army?
No that would be murder when done domestically.
Acts of war do not need to be waged against a military. Im not sure why you would think that.
I’m also not sure why you keep denying a concept accepted by everyone including academia. But to be honest I don’t care, this conversation is too silly. Have a good one.
If it is accepted by academia then shouldn’t there be a source?
And i don’t know why a rational person would think this is universally agreed upon or that “including academia” would some how add value to their opinion.
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Pro CCP copypasta and genocide denial. Classy.
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Who cares if it’s copypasta? It’s well sourced to the point where you’re completely unable to come up with any sort of counter-argument. “ItS gEnOcIdE dEnIAl!”. Then prove it libtard.
Believing Chinese fairytales and demand sources. You people are amazing.
Believing Chinese fairytales and demand sources.
This isn’t an argument. Thank you for proving my point.
You people are amazing.
Aaawwweee! Thaaaanks! ☺️
@o_d @rustyfish “awee” your self to the toilet. The article isn’t well sourced: “Boris Grozovski, a Russian economics expert from the Wilson Center think tank, told Newsweek…” that’s also ignorant of the fact that this is a comparison of the economic growth of Russia, a country with an gdp equivelant to Italy vs the dominant economic power over the entire planet aka the USA. California the state makes more money than russia. You’re desperate/stupid. “Awee” away dumbass
Okay, but you’re missing the point. The argument that @C4RCOSA@lemmygrad.ml makes is in the first line of their first post in this thread.
Russia is not on the verge of collapse
Nothing you’ve stated does anything to disprove the evidence presented nor does it disprove the statement made in isolation of any evidence.
Edit: I suppose it was naive of me to assume that any of you reactionaries would have bothered to actually read the content that you’re supposedly refuting. Your dogmatism is clearly on display here.
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Having to compare oneself with the capitalist hellhole that is the United States just to look good is really telling for China.
Also more copypasta. I give up.
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I, for one, found your posts informative, thank you.
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The quality of these “homes” might want to be taken into account. When the building falls down because there’s no real inspection process, are the survivors compensated by the state that failed them?
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Are you saying that this is the case? What are your sources?
So you’re denying genocides based on the ideology of the executer and not on the account of their victims, ok. Another block.
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Pretty copypasta you have here. But there’s a lot of obvious bullshit - I admit I didn’t even bother reading it in full, but:
Russia is not on the verge of collapse, the IMF predicted that Russian GDP would rebound slightly in 2023 to 0.3 percent growth, and in 2024, the Russian economy is predicted to grow by 2.1 percent. That’s higher than the IMF’s projection for the United States, which it said would see only 1 percent GDP growth that year, and down from a predicted 1.4 percent in 2023, and the 2 percent the U.S. enjoyed in 2022.
I’m not sure where that article got those numbers, but we can check IMF report now to see that prediction for russia is 0.7% in 2023 and 1.3% for 2024. For USA that’s 1.6% and 1.1% respectively. Yet somehow that article claims, that:
Russia’s Economy Forecast to Outperform U.S. Within Two Years
First of all. This is at best sign of some recovery after -2.1% “growth” russia was experiencing last year. Compared to USA 2.1% growth last year. (notice the absence of minus sign there) So even percentage-wise this does not even place russia at the beginning of 2022. Remember that these add up. Meanwhile over these 3 years (if predictions are accurate) USA will see almost 5% increase.
Now overall that is still moot point ignoring the biggest elephant in the room that is the absolute size of the economies. The russian nominal GDP is about $2.2 trillion while USA is 10x bigger at around $25 trillion. So that 5% increase for USA means almost $1.3 trillion increase in absolute numbers. In other words USA’s GDP (according to these predictions) will increase by almost half of entire russian GDP.
I’m not saying that russia is on verge of collapsing economically. Personally I’d say it will collapse politically before that. But that article is pure misinformation.
Thoughts on Russian and Chinese demographic trends over the last decade?
No idea. It might be the perfect match to be honest. Russia will have lack of men due to war, China already has lack of women due to 1 child policy… (Just kind of joking, I really have no idea)
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You provided fairytales about russian economy overtaking USA not sources.
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Right, now if you stop cherrypicking sentences that fit your agenda and just look at the numbers, for 2022-2024, the prediction is for russia to have negative growth of -1.1% while for USA this all adds up to 4% growth.
And again, all of the previous stuff about sizes of economy applies.
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The claim was that Russia’s economy is on the verge of collapse. The data presented shows that a longer forecast predicts a strengthening economy for Russia and a worsening economy for the US. You don’t have to like Russia, but the data does not support the idea that it’s about to collapse. If it does end up collapsing, it will be a statistical anomaly.
This does not affect the overall percentage growth in the period being worse for Russia then the US. Russia invaded a country with a powerful military just after a global pandemic, and soon faced economic sanctions from the then-biggest economic bloc in the world. The fact that Russia’s economy took a hit is not in question. The question is whether the hit was enough to collapse it’s economy. Apparently, the answer is, no.
China is committing genocide, end of discussion.
There is no room to tolerate genocide deniers.
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This is the most stereotypically reddit fedora shit I’ve read yet on lemmy
#Bhagdadbob Great Russian Leader use magical polonium wand make everything better
We can now eat Polonium
We live in sparkling times
I would normally block this but this is comedy gold right here
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@C4RCOSA@lemmygrad.ml
It has the same thing to do with two fascist dictatorships aligning with three democracies who have no sense of self worth or dignity desperate to pretend to be world powers by acting as henchmen for bullies…
Or the same thing witb people so desperate for purpose that they defend war criminals dredging up the faults of a filth capitalist exploitation while both their buddy countries are guilty of that but worse
You not only lack moral authority defending fascists you actually seem to lack a basic understanding of the concept of moral authority
Ergo you are no longer comedically amusing as a Baghdad Bob but openly pathetic and pitiable
Adieu
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Putin mutually agreed with the voices in his head, I guess.
“Mutual agreement”… Okkk 🙄
