Putin’s absence at the summit has been announced by the South African presidency, ending months of speculation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin will not attend the summit of the BRICS group of nations in South Africa in August “by mutual agreement”, South Africa’s presidency said on Wednesday.

“By mutual agreement, President Vladimir Putin of the Russian Federation will not attend the summit, but the Russian Federation will be represented by Foreign Minister Mr [Sergey] Lavrov,” Vincent Magwenya, a spokesman for President Cyril Ramaphosa, said in a statement.

South Africa faced a dilemma in hosting the summit because, as a member of the International Criminal Court (ICC) which issued an arrest warrant for Putin in March for alleged war crimes, it would theoretically be required to arrest him if he were to attend.

The dilemma led to intense debate in South Africa and the West about whether the warrant would be executed, given South Africa’s stance of neutrality on the war in Ukraine and Pretoria’s historic ties to the Kremlin.

In 2015, South Africa also failed to arrest then-Sudanese leader Omar al-Bashir, who was also the subject of an ICC warrant.

The leaders of Brazil, India and South Africa will attend the summit, the presidency said.

BRICS, a bloc of emerging economic powers comprising Brazil, Russia, India and China was formed in 2019 as BRIC. South Africa joined the following year after an invitation from China, expanding the group.

Ethiopia, Iran and Argentina have also applied to join the bloc.

mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/

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      • o_d [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Who cares if it’s copypasta? It’s well sourced to the point where you’re completely unable to come up with any sort of counter-argument. “ItS gEnOcIdE dEnIAl!”. Then prove it libtard.

          • o_d [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            1 year ago

            Believing Chinese fairytales and demand sources.

            This isn’t an argument. Thank you for proving my point.

            You people are amazing.

            Aaawwweee! Thaaaanks! ☺️

            • Beetschnapps@universeodon.com
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              1 year ago

              @o_d @rustyfish “awee” your self to the toilet. The article isn’t well sourced: “Boris Grozovski, a Russian economics expert from the Wilson Center think tank, told Newsweek…” that’s also ignorant of the fact that this is a comparison of the economic growth of Russia, a country with an gdp equivelant to Italy vs the dominant economic power over the entire planet aka the USA. California the state makes more money than russia. You’re desperate/stupid. “Awee” away dumbass

              • o_d [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                1 year ago

                Okay, but you’re missing the point. The argument that @C4RCOSA@lemmygrad.ml makes is in the first line of their first post in this thread.

                Russia is not on the verge of collapse

                Nothing you’ve stated does anything to disprove the evidence presented nor does it disprove the statement made in isolation of any evidence.

                Edit: I suppose it was naive of me to assume that any of you reactionaries would have bothered to actually read the content that you’re supposedly refuting. Your dogmatism is clearly on display here.

                • Beetschnapps@universeodon.com
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                  1 year ago

                  @o_d @C4RCOSA I’m replying to your nonsense replies propping up the BS article in the first place. There also happens to be plenty of data to support that Russia is not flourishing, and is legit suffering from sanctions. No shortage of evidence there. From fielding tanks out of the 50s, to their private and commercial air fleets… you’d have to be ignorant to claim blue skies. You’re spouting the trumpian BS of “people are saying” while claiming other people have no source

                  • Beetschnapps@universeodon.com
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                    1 year ago

                    @o_d @C4RCOSA that’s not to say they are on the verge of total collapse either. But def not roses and sunshine. Sorry I couldn’t previously add more as mastodon limits character count and has no simple down vote mechanism. It’s a bit weird seeing replies with no mention of what they’re replying to, spread across the space with equal prominence as original posts. At times it feels like mastodon has no concept of threads and this everything is noise compared to signal

        • rustyfish@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Having to compare oneself with the capitalist hellhole that is the United States just to look good is really telling for China.

          Also more copypasta. I give up.

            • redteaEnglish
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              1 year ago

              I, for one, found your posts informative, thank you.

    • bossito@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      So you’re denying genocides based on the ideology of the executer and not on the account of their victims, ok. Another block.

    • mea_rah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Pretty copypasta you have here. But there’s a lot of obvious bullshit - I admit I didn’t even bother reading it in full, but:

      Russia is not on the verge of collapse, the IMF predicted that Russian GDP would rebound slightly in 2023 to 0.3 percent growth, and in 2024, the Russian economy is predicted to grow by 2.1 percent. That’s higher than the IMF’s projection for the United States, which it said would see only 1 percent GDP growth that year, and down from a predicted 1.4 percent in 2023, and the 2 percent the U.S. enjoyed in 2022.

      I’m not sure where that article got those numbers, but we can check IMF report now to see that prediction for russia is 0.7% in 2023 and 1.3% for 2024. For USA that’s 1.6% and 1.1% respectively. Yet somehow that article claims, that:

      Russia’s Economy Forecast to Outperform U.S. Within Two Years

      First of all. This is at best sign of some recovery after -2.1% “growth” russia was experiencing last year. Compared to USA 2.1% growth last year. (notice the absence of minus sign there) So even percentage-wise this does not even place russia at the beginning of 2022. Remember that these add up. Meanwhile over these 3 years (if predictions are accurate) USA will see almost 5% increase.

      Now overall that is still moot point ignoring the biggest elephant in the room that is the absolute size of the economies. The russian nominal GDP is about $2.2 trillion while USA is 10x bigger at around $25 trillion. So that 5% increase for USA means almost $1.3 trillion increase in absolute numbers. In other words USA’s GDP (according to these predictions) will increase by almost half of entire russian GDP.

      I’m not saying that russia is on verge of collapsing economically. Personally I’d say it will collapse politically before that. But that article is pure misinformation.

        • mea_rah@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          1 year ago

          No idea. It might be the perfect match to be honest. Russia will have lack of men due to war, China already has lack of women due to 1 child policy… (Just kind of joking, I really have no idea)

        • mea_rah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 year ago

          You provided fairytales about russian economy overtaking USA not sources.

            • mea_rah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Right, now if you stop cherrypicking sentences that fit your agenda and just look at the numbers, for 2022-2024, the prediction is for russia to have negative growth of -1.1% while for USA this all adds up to 4% growth.

              And again, all of the previous stuff about sizes of economy applies.

                • mea_rah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  Never once did I claim that the Russian economy would overtake the United states

                  The article you shared did, which I pointed out. I’m disputing your article, I’m not saying you wrote it. Not sure where you came with that idea.

                  simply that the 2023 growth projections were higher for Russia than the United States

                  Higher in what sense? Comparing percentual growth of two economies that are not even in the same league is misleading at best. Somalia has predicted growth of 3.7% in 2024. What does that say compared to russia? Nothing really. It makes as much sense comparing percentual growth of US economy to russia’s. USA could drop to 0.5% growth and russia could achieve whooping 5% growth and in actual absolute numbers, the US economy would still grow faster.

                  I’ll again ask for any support to your claim that Russia will collapse politically

                  By “claim” you probably mean my personal opinion which I declared as such?

                  I feel like you’re just making up some non-existing claims and then keep disputing them. I have no time for that.

              • redteaEnglish
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                1 year ago

                The claim was that Russia’s economy is on the verge of collapse. The data presented shows that a longer forecast predicts a strengthening economy for Russia and a worsening economy for the US. You don’t have to like Russia, but the data does not support the idea that it’s about to collapse. If it does end up collapsing, it will be a statistical anomaly.

                This does not affect the overall percentage growth in the period being worse for Russia then the US. Russia invaded a country with a powerful military just after a global pandemic, and soon faced economic sanctions from the then-biggest economic bloc in the world. The fact that Russia’s economy took a hit is not in question. The question is whether the hit was enough to collapse it’s economy. Apparently, the answer is, no.

                • mea_rah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  I have never claimed that russian economy is about to collapse. In fact if you scroll up the thread I actually said that I don’t think it will. So I’m not sure why you felt like disputing that in reply to my comment.

                  If it does end up collapsing, it will be a statistical anomaly.

                  I have lived through one such collapse already. Russia collapsing is statistical inevitability. 😂(this is joke BTW, you don’t need to dispute it)

                  • redteaEnglish
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                    1 year ago

                    The comment to which Carcosa initially responded states:

                    Russia is … on the verge of collapse.

                    Hence:

                    The claim was that Russia’s economy is on the verge of collapse. The data presented shows that a longer forecast predicts a strengthening economy for Russia … the data does not support the idea that it’s about to collapse. …

    • Quokka@quokk.auEnglish
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      1 year ago

      China is committing genocide, end of discussion.

      There is no room to tolerate genocide deniers.

          • Rhombus Ticks@universeodon.com
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            1 year ago

            @C4RCOSA@lemmygrad.ml

            It has the same thing to do with two fascist dictatorships aligning with three democracies who have no sense of self worth or dignity desperate to pretend to be world powers by acting as henchmen for bullies…

            Or the same thing witb people so desperate for purpose that they defend war criminals dredging up the faults of a filth capitalist exploitation while both their buddy countries are guilty of that but worse

            You not only lack moral authority defending fascists you actually seem to lack a basic understanding of the concept of moral authority

            Ergo you are no longer comedically amusing as a Baghdad Bob but openly pathetic and pitiable

            Adieu

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