It’s happening. Get used to it.
I’ve come around after a journalist I trust (real journalist, got his house firebombed and his crew falsely arrested) explained the history of Russia that led up to this. I don’t think NATO troops should be in Ukraine and I don’t think Ukraine should’ve ever been floated as a NATO candidate (as insincerely and manipulatively as it was).
I think both Russia and Ukraine are serving as barriers to peace, in Ukraine’s case mainly because of their stubborn insistence on American involvement in any post-war security arrangement.
Who cares in a few months Russia wont be able to fight because they will have no gas. This is all just a bluff because Putin knows the 3 day war can not be won now unless all other countries cut off supplies.
Lmao. Russia was supplying almost the entirety of Europe with cheap gas and suddenly they’re gonna just run out of it? Be fr.
Gas as in gasoline, not gas as in… gas. Ukrainian attacks on refineries in Russia looks to have had a pretty sizable effect.
Putin amitted there is a shortage. Banned all exports. Ukrain has destroyed 30% of russian refineries. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/parts-russia-face-gasoline-shortages-after-ukraine-struck-refineries-2025-08-21/
Imagine seeing these types of stories pop up every few months for the past three years and still believing them. 🤣
Germany is the one that will run out of gas. Russia was the supplier.
is this a bit?
LOL. This is just willful ignorance at this point.
You must also remember that they’re running out of ice. The new shipments from Thailand are being delayed by jaguar attacks.
That’s not gas. That’s liquid fuel.
‘Gasoline’ means petrol, not gas.
No shit…
Oil refiners make lots of products, gas, diesel, kerosene (aviation gas)
No refineries, none of these products, no vehicles to move troops no more war.
Also no income to fund said war.
Dumbass
If that was the way to win the war then Russia would’ve have won a long time ago because they’ve been attacking Ukrainian refineries all this time on a much bigger scale. The only dumbass in this conversation is the one who evidently hasn’t considered this obvious fact.
No, the distinction is important. Russia mostly extracts petroleum and gas, and exports them. The processing happens in China or India. Then, the processed components, including petrol (gasoline), are resold by China and India.
Now I’m sure Russia would rather their refineries not be attacked, and these disruptions could very well cause local shortages or price fluctuations. But for the wider economy or overall supply chains, this won’t matter much.
Wow, you’re dumber than I initally thought…
He first graphic here proves you wrong
Why would anyone sell cheap crude then buy back expensive gas??
Why have refiners if youre exportibg crude?
He first graphic here proves you wrong
Look at the six categories in the graph. Only the dark red represents processed petroleum.
Why would anyone sell cheap crude then buy back expensive gas??
Right, why would any country export cheap raw materials and buy back expensive finished products? That could never happen, right? Surely the majority of the world’s countries aren’t doing it?
Why have refiners if youre exportibg crude?
Bunch of reasons: (1) for domestic use, (2) they can sell it for more, and (3) Russia had a great industrial sector back when it was part of the USSR, and some of that still survives.
But you are right that attacks on Russian refineries will reduce the processing that is happening within Russia. They will have to buy more products from China, etc. Hopefully this convinces their government to invest in industry, but based on what I’ve seen so far I’m not holding my breath on this.
