• OrangeSlice@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    That’s one way to spin losing access to the two largest, richest markets in the world.

    If those markets demostrate such a level of hostility compared to China, is it worth it?

    It did not end up well for them the last time the iron curtains were drawn

    I don’t think there is a clean comparison here since the historical context is significantly different. The PRC is much more developed and stable than the USSR or 50s era PRC was. History also would have turned out much differently if the USSR and PRC didn’t split in the 60s. In my opinion that was what really put them on the path to their economic troubles in the 80s, obviously the Iron Curtain was probably the larger factor overall, but that is to be expected in the political climate of the time.

    I’m not sure being dependent on China is good for Russia either They’re basically now just the mining and resource supplier with no competition to up whatever price China wants to pay them.

    For the moment they are dependent on China, but China has a vested interest in fostering that relationship rather than exploiting it, I would say. They are much stronger together than divided, and they surely can both recognize this from recent history.

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      1 year ago

      Indeed, China opts for partnership in it’s international relations. Very different dynamic to the what the west offers.

    • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      If those markets demostrate such a level of hostility compared to China, is it worth it?

      The west exported it’s manufacturing and pollution to China, plenty warned that if you give away your intellectual property, don’t be surprised if it comes back to bite you.

      The west and China are systematic economic rivals, there is zero benefit to anything more than competitive sustainable economic development.

      The PRC aren’t as stupid as the Russians. Their armed forces haven’t been tested since they lost against Vietnam and Taiwan is not an easy territory to take militarily either.

      Russia on the other hand have gone from being feared as the second best military in the world to the second best military in Ukraine. The biggest problem Russia presents is that the next dictator could be even worse than this one.