Of course the comintern always supported mao, never supported ataturk, didn’t dissolve itself, and supported the Greek revolutionaries in violation of the yalta agreement cause why have pragmatism and long term histiographic analysis when you have idealism.

(Also the USSR infamously supported Trotskytes despite the fact that Trotskyites were extremely hostile to them)

(Wait they didn’t do any of this…I can’t believe it)

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    but this is all action that could be taken by a social democratic state

    Yet never is. Perhaps ultras should realise that an analysis cannot be based on woulda coulda shoulda, and the purpose of a system is what it does. SocDems are only ever strong and fervent when they’re backed (indeed pushed) by labour movements. On the other hand, the only regimes that work to eradicate poverty, create prosperity for all are the socialist ones, governed by those Communists ultras cannot help but invent flaws about.

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      but this is all action that could be taken by a social democratic state

      Yet never is.

      Exactly what i was going to say. If it is so easy for a bourgeois government to do what China did, why don’t they? Why didn’t India?

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      Social democracy also presupposes the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. Something Maoists never bother to prove China has. They just assume it, ironically making their entire argumentation nonsense.

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      There’s something kind of fascinating about them in a way. If anyone here has ever dealt with hardcore fundamentalist Christians (or hell, even hardcore liberals) you’ve probably seen a lot of overlap in their behaviour.

      Now, that you mention it, this makes a lot of sense.

      Recently, in an spanish server that I am currently in, they did word for word what you described. Sadly, they were not banned as fast and it caused damage to the server. This lead to the drop of some active members tired of these shitty ultras scummy fallacies. If anyone has maoists like this, be careful. They are wreckers and love instigating caos in servers.

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    This false equivalence is very infuriating and I have seen plenty of maoists do this malicious comparison:

    The current iteration of the CPC undeniable raises living standards for the Chinese people, and in general makes moves to improve lives domestically, but this is all action that could be taken by a social democratic state, as the primary task of the CPC and the state is still to mediate the class struggle betwen the bourgeoise and the proletariat, as a state would function under liberal or fascists orientations.

    This guy has to be a privileged westerner that thinks that social democracies are the “middle” man between the rich and the workers and have never struggled in life due to the “state” not willing to improve workers life instead of fatting the rich pigs pockets. Otherwise, they wouldn’t make this nonsense that is so divorced of reality.

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    same energy as anarchists who cry abt “stalinist betrayal” during the spanish civil war