It appears to me that the complete deindustrialization of the imperial core is a historical arc that, since 1973, has been more or less unstoppable. The question is, if a socialist world revolution were to happen in the near future, and they basically established JDPON, how would it be possible to reindustrialize the former imperialist nations without relying on exploiting the former periphery countries? The actual productive capacity has been decimated.
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Pure doomerism. We are headed for crop failures, but we currently massively overproduce food for the human population, and produce that food very inefficiently.
Even the worst case scenario for climate change predicts a peak production in 2040, at almost 50% higher than current, and then a decline of 25% over the next 50 years. If there’s mass death, it will be because capitalism fucks over distribution and acclimation as it always does, but the scenario you are describing isn’t supported by any climate/agricultural science.
There is enough space, there is enough water and there is enough agricultural land to accommodate two billion climate migrants in the north and south over the next eighty years, and it’s something we can accomplish.
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That’s definitely true, but exploitation free industrialization is close to unprecedented. There’s a good reason the USSR had to adopt the NEP.
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Maybe, but I think if the goal was to avoid a major economic collapse in the west then peripheral nations would end up having to support former imperial powers as they re-industrialized. Ironically, I think China has been hoping for this to happen naturally as it’s the only path the world really has towards a long term stability. Unfortunately, I don’t think western countries have the capacity to plan for the long term and enact the kind of industrial policy necessary to make it happen. Even if those in power can see and understand the problem at hand, they are incapable of doing anything about it. As such, I think it’s more likely they’ll have no choice but to resort to various forms of imperial domination which just makes an economic crisis more likely if they fail.
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In this type of scenario I think the industrialization would be possible by using a lot of robots and AI and much less human labor to manage and oversee it all. This would cut labor cost enough to make up for the increased material cost
That seems like it just exacerbates the issue, though. What industry remains in the core is extremely capital intensive and is only sustainable because of exploitation of the Global South; making it more capital intensive is incompatible with deconstructing imperialism.
Yeah I don’t think it’s really going to happen, and honestly it probably would be prison slave labor instead of robots that cut labor costs.
Yes it is, but it would require very far going changes in politics and economic, basically a revolution.
Possibly, depends on how it’s done. I think a better question is; can the west re-industrialise without destroying the planet?
