• spectre [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    This is the talking point. The “dirtbag left” is dead. We need to quash our irony and take advantage of the moment.

    Get serious and talk to your liberals this week.

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    I just emailed the PSL to figure out what it will take to set up a chapter where I am. I’m not a paying member yet but will join officially as soon as I’m making money.

    Gonna be hard as hell setting up in the Texas Panhandle, deep in Christo-fascist Trump land but fuck it. I’m not gonna stand by idly why my bothers and sisters suffer.

    Organize. Agitate. Fight Back!

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      Honestly it would probably be more strategic to start something that directly helps the local people and opens them up to inoculation than try and start a PSL chapter

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        When I sent the application request thing, I stated that I wanted to discuss the prospects of doing this exactly for reasons like what you mention. I will probably already bring it up to the others who help with FNB because I think they are all left-leaning libs at worst, that mean well. I think they are more open to that discussion.

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          tbh I doubt they would even get back to you for that, PSL is notoriously bad at getting back to people in general while also only helping people to promote PSL and Peace & Freedom’s candidates or show up to ANSWER stuff. maybe they will be changing these things with the election over, trying to use the momentum to build their party up.

          I think non political people who have the standard 8th grade civ level of understanding installed and otherwise are just obviously people who care about life and other living things are really the best because it is easy to walk them to “the system doesn’t work,” they typically understand that already and just don’t have the words to describe it. getting a group of people in similar shitty circumstances together and forming a plan on how to tackle those issues through building an organization together can be as easy as a bbq in the lawn at your local slumlord’s apartment building. just need to analyze your local conditions and find the contradictions that have the most kinetic energy so to speak

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    The realization that theres a non insignificant amount of Americans who hate the status quo but didn’t vote for Trump is actually a good wake up call. Its going to be an absolute uphill battle, but leftism actually has a chance of having an actual movement in America.

    Im gonna see if theres any orgs I can join near me, and I hope that everyone else can too.

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      Joining an existing org is most likely for the best, but also consider rolling your own. You can do both, ofc (just campaign within your miniparty to disband and convert to the larger org you’re working with at some point).

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    Honey, I don’t think I can look at anyone who consented to genocide knowing full well what we’re doing with anything but disgust. If you’re capable of organizing then please organize. I want off Mr. MERICA’s wild ride.

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      I’m feeling that. I don’t wanna lash out at the wrong people, but seeing folks who were apathetic on bombing starving populations, suddenly comparing themselves to Katniss because Kamala lost. I’m gonna clear my head with a run before engaging in convo with any more libs.

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    I wish I had the faith you did, but all I’m seeing right now is everyone blaming the left for this. Libs are pissed and openly wishing for Palestinians to get bombed and immigrants deported. I don’t see any path for socialists to take here besides just cracking open a beer and hoping China invades soon. I may need to grab a six pack. Nah fuck that a case.

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      Those are not the people who are going to be organized, they are fascists taking their masks off. The average Black and Indigenous person in America does not think this way. The average Muslim, Arab, or even Asians in general most likely do not think this way. Communists organize the most marginalized and oppressed, not fully invested liberals.

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        The average Black and Indigenous person in America does not think this way. The average Muslim, Arab, or even Asians in general most likely do not think this way. Communists organize the most marginalized and oppressed, not fully invested liberals.

        I agree 100%, I’ve been making a point of following BIPOC leftist content creators, because I’ve noticed leftists communities are still very white, the most followed leftist content creators are still mostly white, and it bothers me. I think we need more amplification of BIPOC voices within all leftist communities.

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          I think almost half the eligible voting population didn’t vote and there’s a massive base of people who are not eligible to vote beyond that.

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              which is why I said fully invested. if they aren’t invested enough to vote, they are just default libs because they were born here, just like literally everyone else who was born here, you and me included.

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                  I agree generally that people in this country no matter their class background benefit enough from imperialism and the domestic slave colony to not put effort into their own political development. I do think however, after a decade of serious organizing, nearly all the best comrades I’ve ever met have more to gain from the status quo than they do by being communists. They devote their lives to it because it is right, and they have seen too much to go back. The average person does benefit but also agrees with every socialist policy and just thinks it isn’t attainable because they have never been educated about politics beyond the default programming. Literally our jobs as communists to find those people and show them that they can change things and how.

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      Nah, I’m having so much luck with talking to squishy left-libs rn its crazy. Even some blueanon russiagate types seem to be understanding how much of a dead end the dems are. off to c/doomer with this sentiment.

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          There is a difference between the terminally online liberal, who make up the vast majority of posters coping online, VS a lot of people I’m talking with offline are in a major depressive state. The latter aren’t posting on Reddit/Twitter/etc right now, and are very receptive to an alternative view.

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      I definitely get your concern, but while the libs are lashing out like that I don’t think you should take it that seriously. The people who can be worked with and recruited aren’t the ones talking right now, so its important we can find them and work with them before the right does.

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    y’all go ahead, I’m spending the next week doing the most insufferable gloating right in the faces of the smug liberals who chided me for caring about genocide

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      Varies a lot based on a specific branch’s needs and status. Sometimes branches are in periods of aggressive growth, sometimes periods of internal consolidation with minimal onboards. But almost branches are going into growth mode after the election.