• Justice
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    8 days ago

    It’s incredibly obvious that Ethan has just been isolated in a bubble for a year and has done zero critical thinking about Israel or why everyone shits on Israel. He very clearly wants everyone to reach his starting position (from which HE refuses to budge no matter the piles of evidence) of “Israel MUST exist as a Jewish-majority ethnostate.” And that’s basically it.

    If you challenge that, he takes it (weirdly, imo) personally. As if a state all the way across the world existing changes his life in any fucking kind of way. The dynamic is different for his wife, still not justified, but it’s different. For him though… why? Why are you continuing to gobble this racist shit?

    It’s incredibly interesting and depressing really seeing people come out of the woodwork who claimed for years to “hate Israel” and not be Zionists now chirping endlessly as it appears the Zionist state is teetering towards collapse. I guess it’s easy to hide your true beliefs when there appears to be no danger for your ethnostate project of choice.

    It’s also very clearly a weird intertwining of him “not wanting to be wrong” (but he is… objectively so) and “taking it personally.” The former is just petty, typical insecure man-baby stuff. The latter is petty, typical Amero-brained stuff (or I suppose Westoid more broadly) where every perceived “attack” on the foundations of a nationstate is taken personally by people who identify as patriotic citizens of the state. Typical bullshit nationalism that I thought(?) we all found out was bad in the last 100 years… certainly I think Ethan would find German or Turkish nationalism weird and problematic to say the least. But when it’s America or, dumber, a foreign country that he has no ties to except he moved there and married a woman from there… it’s ok to him. Or he fails to recognize he is engaging in braindead nationalistic tendencies despite being told what he’s doing for a year. So, back to him being stuck in a bubble.

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      7 days ago

      The dynamic is different for his wife

      This is why he takes it personally. They are married and she has family in Israel. So if she takes it personally, he can’t just shrug his shoulders and say “your problem.” They probably get a lot of news and info from their family back home and it’s what’s feeding him.

      This is the insidious nature of Israel’s efforts to court every Jewish person living worldwide - to get them to either personally believe in the Zionist project, or get them to care about people that do.

      I guess it’s easy to hide your true beliefs when there appears to be no danger for your ethnostate project of choice.

      Applies to so much more than just this. We saw this when we had libs resisting Trump and AOC crying about kids in cages. Now? Silence, if not shutting us down. It’s easy to be radical when there is no hope of success. But when the state starts taking it seriously…the cowards scatter and the grifters get exposed.

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        7 days ago

        Indeed…

        I was listening to Ethan discuss how he met Hila and even he centers it around his “birthright” trip to Israel and the state intermingling IOF members with the visiting people in an obvious attempt to get them to marry and move there permanently. He talked about it like it’s weird that the state does this… and yet he married his wife! And I’m not intending to do like a dumb “wow he married the honeypot” or whatever. I don’t think that’s the case. But it probably should set off little bells in your brain if you’re aware of all this stuff, as he apparently was, and you find yourself doing what the state quite literally vocally says they want people to do. Maybe if they get people to do weird stuff like that… maybe they’re not honest actors. Maybe their entire media and collaborating medias should be highly suspect. I guess he’s never connected these things in his brain or he’s afraid of waking up to the reality that his wife and her family are all fully bought-in on the bullshit and he’s been eating the same bullshit, despite claiming to know it’s bullshit!, for at least a year but if we’re for real here it’s way longer than a year. Just more quiet before this past year.