To be fair, Ukraine was actually about to seal a very favorable deal for itself two months into the conflict, until the Brits talked them out of it. Really dodged a bullet there.
True, and I will forever be bitter about it. Because Ukraine was going to have proper talks but the UK stopped them, now they’re complaining about it not working? They’re the reason why it didn’t work! And Russia is still willing to talk anyway, not on the same terms but still.
Indeed, the west effectively ensured that Ukraine is destroyed. Every step the west took was a tragedy for Ukraine. The coup in 2014, the sabotage of Minsk agreements, the push for NATO integration, the sabotage of Istanbul talks, and now the insistence that Ukraine has to be in a “strong position” to start negotiations. At each step Ukraine end up in a worse position than it was before.
To be fair, Ukraine was actually about to seal a very favorable deal for itself two months into the conflict, until the Brits talked them out of it. Really dodged a bullet there.
True, and I will forever be bitter about it. Because Ukraine was going to have proper talks but the UK stopped them, now they’re complaining about it not working? They’re the reason why it didn’t work! And Russia is still willing to talk anyway, not on the same terms but still.
Indeed, the west effectively ensured that Ukraine is destroyed. Every step the west took was a tragedy for Ukraine. The coup in 2014, the sabotage of Minsk agreements, the push for NATO integration, the sabotage of Istanbul talks, and now the insistence that Ukraine has to be in a “strong position” to start negotiations. At each step Ukraine end up in a worse position than it was before.
but see its unfair why would Russia not offer better terms than they where offering right after this started?