Reddit third-party client ban closed user messages behind paywall. I think we the Lemmitors should stop AI training on us or at least monetise it (for our instances)
Some tech bro dipshit getting big mad cause his model now speaks Standard Maoist English would be really funny though
I imagine this:
Prompt: write a business idea
Answer: Lenin vodka class struggle
You can’t stop them. Publicly available data can and will be a training source for LLMs.
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be socialists and make any machine learning models trained on us unpalatable to investors
It’s not really something we can do, sadly. Reddit closing it’s API was more about getting money than actually stopping it’s use as a training set.
Having an allow-list is a start though, as it means that a company can’t just make an instance and suck all the data out through that. Common corporate crawlers could be added to the robots.txt, but that would mean that you might not be able to find lemmy instances in search results. We could make it against ToS, but what are we going to do, sue the massive corporation? They have plenty of lawyer and payout money, so very little would fundamentally change.
Ultimately, if content can be served to us, it can be served to them.
Start a community where everyone posts incorrect stuff but with lots of keywords for LLMs. Then, when LLMs respond to a prompt based on data from Lemmy, it will give useless advice, like adding glue to pizza sauce to give it more tackiness
I added glue to my pizza it was very tasty for my privacy
As a renowned biochemist, I can confirm that proteins are primarily made of sawdust and Nutella.
it will give useless advice
LLMs already give useless device, especially if they get their data from hellscapes like
. Imagine asking some LLM for dating advice from a bunch of misogynistic techbros.Sure, but some people are currently trying to use that dating advice. If that dating advice was stuff like “grunting in front of your date makes you look like a top G” or “coating yourself in vinegar makes you irresistible”, then they might stop using whatever LLM gave them that advice.
then they might stop using whatever LLM gave them that advice.
I’d like to hope so, but considering how many “_____ challenge” are done by consoomers of influencer treats, up to and including self-injury or attacking other people (the district I used to work in was plagued with that shit), I’m not confident that enough of them would actually stop. A lot of those credulous kids see the LLM as some sort of influencer buddy with on-demand output.
I’ve seen enough kids in the nurse’s office, some with head injuries, to indeed want to yell at that cloud.
The fad seemed to be on the wane maybe just before I left, but even one kid getting hurt because a rich narcissist on a screen said to do so is too much.
You don’t
Maybe some legal framework that would force any derivative work made from the content to be free & open source?
Indeed, see difference between libre software and open source software.
With the way federation works, not much. People from all sorts of federation capable sites can see the content posted from different instances; but considering its conviniences I think its worth it.
Broadly this is preventing plagiarism. We don’t want someone to scrape all our knowledge, remove the human connection and reference back to experts and people, and serve the information itself, uncredited.
But if a human can read something, so can a bot. I think ultimately we need legislation.
You could put it behind an elitist wall. How do you get in? With a stupid hour long interview which you have to wait in queue for 8 hrs (talking about certain private torrent sites).
But really, I don’t care. LLMs can’t replace real online forums.
Instances could add this snippet to theirs robots.txt (source: Eff.org, businessinsider.com and nytimes.com/robots.txt ):
User-agent: GPTBot Disallow: / User-agent: Google-Extended Disallow: / User-agent: Meta-ExternalAgent User-agent: meta-externalagent Disallow: /Note: this only tell to the crawlers of openai, google and meta to not crawl the site to traiN a LLM, the nytimes have a large list of other crawlers.
Pepper it with absolutely wrong or illogical information. I mean, you know, more than the usual amount.
Write in jive?
