It’s not that bad. The drivers are just as buggy as the Windows versions honestly. It’s just that the Radeon drivers are so stable that it makes Nvidia look bad by comparison. And, notably, Nvidia is REALLY slow to add new features like what they need to fully support Wayland.
By some definition. They have always been usable to some degree because I think animators or something use Linux commercially on Nvidia, and for gpgpu they are still top class on linux (nothing comes close)
They haven’t always been the best for gaming or desktop (Wayland) use though, since Intel and AMD opened up their drivers.
Arguably in my experience Nvidia has been far less buggy for the last 30+ years on x11, and with this change they may have finally reached parity on Wayland, haven’t tried it myself.
They used to be good, almost as good as the Windows drivers. Lately, though, they’ve been kinda trash and the AMD open driver is pretty alright now. (Performance isn’t as good but other than that it’s good.)
Unlike AMD and Intel, they don’t get along with the open source community well and generally do whatever they please, which is why they earned the ire of many linux developers. For example, they’re really dragging their asses with implementing explicit sync.
Ah sorry, I got it backward. Nvidia is dragging their asses on implementing “implicit” sync, so Wayland devs and nvidia ended up with a compromise and implemented the explicit sync protocol. IMO it’s just another example of Nvidia doing whatever they please and forcing everyone to do it their way or highway.
Uhh nvidia has had native Linux drivers since the 1990’s…
But it sounds like they’ve been shit?
It’s not that bad. The drivers are just as buggy as the Windows versions honestly. It’s just that the Radeon drivers are so stable that it makes Nvidia look bad by comparison. And, notably, Nvidia is REALLY slow to add new features like what they need to fully support Wayland.
Didn’t they say that the core driver code was the same anyway ? (which would make sense)
By some definition. They have always been usable to some degree because I think animators or something use Linux commercially on Nvidia, and for gpgpu they are still top class on linux (nothing comes close)
They haven’t always been the best for gaming or desktop (Wayland) use though, since Intel and AMD opened up their drivers.
Arguably in my experience Nvidia has been far less buggy for the last 30+ years on x11, and with this change they may have finally reached parity on Wayland, haven’t tried it myself.
They used to be good, almost as good as the Windows drivers. Lately, though, they’ve been kinda trash and the AMD open driver is pretty alright now. (Performance isn’t as good but other than that it’s good.)
Unlike AMD and Intel, they don’t get along with the open source community well and generally do whatever they please, which is why they earned the ire of many linux developers. For example, they’re really dragging their asses with implementing explicit sync.
By dragging their asses you mean adding it it their very first beta driver just a few weeks after it was merged into Wayland/Xwayland?
Ah sorry, I got it backward. Nvidia is dragging their asses on implementing “implicit” sync, so Wayland devs and nvidia ended up with a compromise and implemented the explicit sync protocol. IMO it’s just another example of Nvidia doing whatever they please and forcing everyone to do it their way or highway.
Also after doing a gigantic amount of the work to get it into wayland/xwayland too
They’ve mostly worked as advertised. One problem they’ve had was switching from external to embedded GPUs on laptops. I think that’s fixed now.
My desktops have all had nVidia cards for more than 20 years with no real issues. It’s a meme really.