“So when we were faced with destruction as a nation after Pearl Harbor…"
The US was never faced with destruction during World War II.
Obviously you haven’t seen that fine documentary The Man in the High Castle.
Or the one about a post-Trump presidency, The Handmaiden’s Tale
Hey now. The threat of destruction was just as bad as the actual destruction across Europe and Asia.
Americans and clutching at pearls name a better duo lol
Americans and shooting people, both at home and abroad
Americans and clutching at Pearl Harbor
Amerikans and genocide collaboration
I mean, yes and no. Pearl harbor wasn’t the only place hit 12/7. Philipines, Guam and Wake were all hit as well
Hong Kong and Singapore were also attacked and the empire invaded Malaysia.
America took a sharp hit square in the face, but Britain got sent home in a body bag at the end of 1941. By Feb 1942 the UK had lost all of Malaysia, lost Hong Kong and lost Singapore. They lost 12,000 troops, the rest surrendering. Zero soldiers made it home. Out of 120,000. Australia and New Zealand were in extreme danger and the Raj was expecting assault at any moment. I’m the spam of a few months Japan had sunsetted the largest empire the world had ever seen.
America had never been pit against such an enemy. You have to take all of WW2 into that context. Fuck in WW1 they played soccer across no-man’s-land on Christmas. The next year the Canadians had arrived and…well…I’m not saying shit about canuckistani military just that over half of the geneva convention exists because of Canada.
None of those put the US at existential threat.
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How is loosing territories some 5.000-10.000 km away an “existential threat”? Even if they wanted to, Japan had no means of successfully invading main land US.
The US justifies dropping the Nukes with it preventing an extraordinary loss of life if they had to stage an amphibious invasion of main land Japan. But at least the US could stage much closer to Japan, than Japan could to the US.
In the same wake the Britains loosing their empire was not an existential threat to the US just as much as the genocide against China was not an existential threat for the US just as the Holocaust and the genocides in eastern Europe weren’t an existential threat to the US.
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Okay good point about the threat WWII Japan posed but you’re going too far in the other direction. When asked about going to war with America admiral Yamamoto said what amounts to “this is a bad idea don’t”. Now part of their failure definitely lies in poor leadership, and I can see the idea that if they’d concentrated on America instead of opening a war on three (two and a half?) fronts they might’ve made significant gains until America’s industry caught up, but they simply didn’t have the industrial base to keep the US down. The US also has very good natural defenses that you forgot to take into account. Remember: Their ships and airplanes were all handmade.
Let’s drop Lindsey Graham on Gaza instead of a nuke.
Haven’t Palestinians been through enough? You’d make them clean up Lyndsey Graham, too?
Cannabalism is against Islam, otherwise I’d say that at least they’d finally get some food in Gaza.
Drop him in Papua New Guinea?
Imagine how much better the world would be if there was just a simple process of psychological screening for would-be politicians, and psychopaths were barred from holding office.
There should also be a limit on how stupid they’re allowed to be.
At this rate we’d have no politicians!
Sure sounds better than what we currently have
Smart people put political proxies in power so they can get on with living their life.
There are only two reasons to become a politician and STAY a politician, and Graham is no Sanders.
Colonel Sanders, maybe…
Better screen for sociopaths too.
There is already, it’s the electoral process. But it selects for these people to hold office rather than bars them. It bars normal people.
Casually arguing for breaking the taboo on using nuclear weapons.
Forget Gaza, this is how human civilization ends.
We have been saying that Israel is a moral and legal hazard to the entire world as it rallied its allies to throw out all resemblance of a rule based international order recognizing such basic human rights like not being slaughtered and having access to basic food, water and medicine.
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This should disqualify him from ever holding office again. I know it won’t, but it should.
You mean it should lock him behind bars for life.
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Ya know, if post Civil War reconstruction had actually happened and we’d de-confederated the South like we de-nazi’d Germany and Japan the GOP wouldnt exist today.
Well, kinda, since the parties swapped roles in the Southern Strategy as a response to the civil rights movements, back then the democrats were the overtly racist ones. So we could assume the GOP would still exist but it would look nothing like the “modern” (hah) version.
Yes, the nuance of the party swap in the 60s is lost on most people.
Thats how my ultra-maga relatives get to prpudly post on FB how theyre the party of Lincoln and in the very next post proclaim their hatred anything farther left than the taliban.
“We’re the party of Lincoln, that’s why everything needs to be named after a Confederate general. State’s rights.”
We didn’t de-nazify Germany. We put Nazi officers in charge of NATO and we joined the Catholic Church in protecting Nazis and distributing them all over the world.
Relevant:
And we’d probably have actual human rights laws in America, instead of means-tested, drug-tested government aid.
Probably not. The North didn’t see enslaved people through some sort of egalitarian lens. They made their money financializing the slave trade.
Fair point. I wonder what would have happened if they’d have amended the constitution so that states could actually secede, instead of having a war. I guess eventually international war instead of civil war?
It would have immediately created conflict over natural resources. There was no alternative. They had to unify and they had to get the capitalists on both sides into an alliance in order to proceed.
So, given that global society has advanced 150 years or so, what lessons can we take away from Brexit, USSR, Chechoslovakia, etc. on how to safely split a country or governmental organization?
Give a nation of people their own state on their native land. That’s what the USSR did when it was founded. They worked to give every nation of people’s their own government and self-determination, they gave them all the right to secede, they elevated their national heritages
The USA, however, is a colony that went rogue. It’s people are not a nation - there are many nations present. The nations that were here before the Europeans arrived need to be given full sovereignty, the American descendants of slaves are a nation unto themselves and they need the right to self-determination. The many persons of the various European nations need to lose their sovereignty in this place. That national self-determination is how it becomes sustainable and effective. Letting colonists run their little fascist fiefdoms is not and will never be a solution.
True social justice would be to send everyone packing, then?
Spelling errors in titles really grind my goat.
Seeing how there aren’t any, that seems to be a non sequitur.
“Discretely” should be “discreetly”. One means “separately” and the other “unobtrusively”.
That’s true. Ten points for Ravenclaw.
You could argue that using the wrong homophone transcends mere misspelling and becomes a different category of error…
Ahh yes, dropping nuclear weapons right next door, risking fallout in your own territory and pissing off every country around you, as well as all your allies. Why not?
How dare you question the blinding brilliance that is Lindsey? I’m sure his masterplan accounts for things like inciting a global nuclear war with some clever solution that isn’t just waiting it out in a congressional bunker with all his cowardly friends while we all die horribly, right?
indeed, the bunker has been upgraded to a SpaceX satellite mesh hotel.
Israel wouldn’t do that. They want to give the beachfront property to American politicians as a “gift that’s totally not a bribe”
Would be such a shame if a stray rocket hit Ted Cruz’s beachfront house while he’s on vacation 🙈
“I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."
Only thing this guy deserves to hear for the rest of his life.
How is it even legal to call for the murder of so many people using one of the most atrocious weapons humanity has invented…but if one were to suggest to apply a guillotine to this person for doing so, they would be in severe legal trouble?
Same way you can say guillotine the rich but not kill Jeffy Bezos
One is seen as more direct, even though the other includes more people
You can suggest he deserves a lot of things - like you can a pedo. What you can’t do is say you’re going to do it yourself.
Indifference to human life totally on brand for the gop
This is not indifference. This is a call for genocide. And a genocide at Ausschwitz proportions.
I’m saying lindsey graham doesn’t care if people live or if people die.
I’m from in Belgium, and have colleagues from countries from both sides of the second world war. The carpet bombing of cities is still talked about every now and then. It’s still remembered as one of the worst tragedies during that war (apart from the obvious), and the scars it left in many family trees still pain the people to this day.
Hearing stories from Gaza and the Donbas always remind me of the stories I used to hear from my grandfather, and I believed we left those war tactics behind in the last century. It’s absolutely insane hearing an allied country to ours debating using those tactics again.
I’m shocked! Who could have guessed this slimy invertebrate would have zero regard for anyone but himself!?
It’s wild that if anyone were to suggest killing Lindsey Graham they would probably be arrested and called a terrorist. But he can just casually advocate for nuking a densely populated area that is inhabited mostly by civilians and a bunch of brain dead morons will still vote for him.
The only thing Lindsey likes more then male prostitutes is killing POC. 🐞🐞🐞
So did we ever find out if Biden can use seal team six to kill political opponents?
They wouldn’t make a decision on that unless Trump was in office.
Democrats better get busy filling those Supreme Court seats, now, if we are going to have any chance at stopping Donald Trump, Jr. from taking over in 2040.
I expect kidney failure before that happens.
I don’t follow the popular news, is he known as a drinker?
Naw but he notoriously eats like shit
vote harder
yeah, my one white vote in a sea of red and blue is really going to matter, no thanks. give me a real choice, you’ll get a real vote
Nah they’ll find a way to somehow make it only allowed by trump or republicans
