• CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Fresh fish too is such a killer. I’m sorry, but do not buy seafood if you live in the Midwestern United States, especially anything live or fresh. Frozen is slightly better, but even then think of what goes in to making that happen.

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        All of the seafood in the Midwest has been frozen and thawed back out at the grocery store. Fresh fish in the Midwest and even near the coast is a lie. 85% of all us fish consumed is imported, and it was frozen before it ever got into US territory. Many fishing boats freeze them on ship, even. The only way you can chance upon “fresh” fish is if it’s in season and near the coast you’re buying in.

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          Maybe, but Iceland is surrounded by ocean filled with fish and most people live on the coastline. That’s much more sustainable than buying live clams/ fresh fish from a chain grocery store in North Dakota

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            Just you said the Midwest. And whilst Iceland is surrounded by water, it’s competing on the global market.

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                Hang on where is the mid west? Presumably not the middle of the western world…

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                  The Midwest they are referring to is a region of the land-locked interior of the united states. Generally refers to the states in the region comprising of: Nebraska to the West, Minnesota to the North, Ohio to the East, Missouri to the South, and those that lie between.

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                    Oh. Seems like it would be wise to say “mid west US”…narrows it down slightly.

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                Well, Europe is in the middle of the west, roughly. Iceland is one country I can think of that is dependent on fish.

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              I see where you are coming from and that’s my bad, I’ll make the term more specific.

              I was using a colloquialism common to the United States which refers to a group of landlocked areas hundreds/thousands of miles away from the ocean

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              They had 3 wars against UK for fishing rights. Won all three too, since they threatened to quit NATO and USA immediately reprimended Brits.

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                We’ve fucked ourselves over with fishing rights, there was no point.

                When we were doing Brexit, the pro Brexit politicians got the fishermen on their side. But they’d sold fishing rights to Europe.

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                  As i see this Brexit was one hell of a hoax. Sure, fuck EU but from the outside of UK it clearly looked as because EU was not neoliberal and imperialist enough for them.

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      Most westerners are of an “me first” attitude. You seriously expect them to accept the fact that they just can’t have something?

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          Same. I’m sure the rich will be fine, until it becomes obvious they’re utterly useless.

      • many certainly are cucked by their political economy into believing with absolute certainty, despite all evidence to the contrary, the current and wildly unsustainable configuration is all that’s possible.

        pretty sure if they can swallow “Trump v Biden = democracy” and “no money for healthcare, infinity money for war” they can wrap their minds around “no vine ripe tomatoes in January”.