• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      6721 days ago

      If they still expect some sort of regime change in Russia, they’re utterly delusional. We’re going to see that happen in western countries long before Russia given the state of social cohesion here.

      • PKMKII [none/use name]
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        5421 days ago

        The fatal error is they assumed Russia was going to be like Iraq or Libya where they could shock and awe a much weaker nation and that a color revolution movement could be found/generated. Russia was too strong and Putin too popular for either to materialize.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          4820 days ago

          Yeah, they bought into their own bullshit that Russia was just a gas station with nukes and if they blew hard enough it would tumble.

          • emizeko [they/them]
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            “if we just kick in the door the whole rotten structure will come crashing down” —Hitler planning Barbarossa

    • bleepbloopbop [they/them]
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      2620 days ago

      presumably they don’t want to state that as the goal because it’s not happening no matter how much money they throw at the situation

  • D61 [any]
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    5521 days ago

    A Russia that is so unstable with internal conflict that it somehow negatively affects China to a degree that the USA retains in hegemonic power.

  • CommunistBear [he/him]
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    3120 days ago

    Was victory ever truly even desired? I figured this was a new potential forever-war to pad the bottom lines of MIC companies. Regime change in Russia would obviously be ideal for the ghouls but a constant flow of cash to the MIC is reason enough

    • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
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      2820 days ago

      No, from the beginning it looked like a typical hegemony maintenance proxy war to destabilize entire region. Tried and practiced for decades in the West Asia.