• zed_proclaimer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      7 months ago

      They knew they could because US would play the villain so they could play the smol bean dissenters at little risk. If this was a simple majority vote they would have been corralled into submission

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    I would be super curious to know the senior US politicians like if they could speak without pressure on them and zero chance of reprisal… what the fuck are they doing here? This is the most obviously unsustainable suicide pact perhaps ever in history. At this point it would almost be more sane for the US to just unilaterally invade and take over Israel and rule it officially, and allow the Palestinians a state as well. Obviously that’s insane but the days of Israel doing whatever it wants are ending or Israel will end… this seems so painfully obvious to everyone except those in power who are deluded or scared or whatever into thinking that every decision like this, acting as if it’s 1992 forever, further pushes the rest of the world into solidarity against the US. Seems “kinda bad” from a “keeping the US in a strong position into the future” standpoint. They’re so incompetent they can’t even do imperialism correctly

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      No seriously at this point supporting Israel is dumb even on a realpolitik level. We’ve handcuffed ourselves to this lunatic that can’t stop picking fights with anyone and everyone and has nukes. I thought Biden was a Catholic but the only way what he’s doing makes sense is if he’s an Evangelical Christian Zionist and is genuinely trying to bring about the end times.

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      I think it’s just purely profit-motive without any form of long term strategy. Israel and Ukraine both justify printing money to give to arms manufacturers. Ukraine sold off its public infrastructure to American private investors, and Israel is already making plans to redevelop the Gaza Strip, presumably financed by American real estate companies. If Biden is still in office when Israel runs out of speculative assets to sell off, I assume his admin will find some other ally to prop up while gutting.

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      At this point it would almost be more sane for the US to just unilaterally invade and take over Israel and rule it officially, and allow the Palestinians a state as well.

      I mean this doesn’t sound half bad. Hard to be worse than what is currently happening.

      Edit: We are to the point of encouraging U.S. imperialism to get rid of Israel, it’s that bad lmao

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        I mean that’s my point. Invading a nuclear state is batshit insane… and yet just letting them attack and threaten Iran, etc. is worse. At least invading would be a bandaid rip for the most part and the US if anyone could probably do it in a way that completely neutralizes the nukes before they’re launched or whatever. Then the situation would be controllable directly and things could be settled, but currently we have a country of insane people doing whatever the fuck they want, including nuclear threats and such, and absolutely fuck all is being done to even slightly make them slow down or just plain stop. Just actual death cult shit happening when it absolutely doesn’t need to be happening.

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    Does a veto in the security council have any effect on what the General Assembly votes on? It’s noted in the article that 140+ countries already recognise Palestine as a country, so they should still pass a general assembly vote no problem.

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        In the Security Council, yes. But Security council resolutions don’t determine if countries become UN members; General assembly votes do that, no?