Proton Mail says that the new Outlook app for Windows is a privacy nightmare for users, as the app shares the data with advertisers.
  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
    321·
    3 months ago

    Outlook and Gmail have always been data collection tools, apart from being spam magnets

  • FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml
    18·
    3 months ago

    this title totally buries the lead lede: outlook has started displaying ads in inboxes, that’s the story and that’s what Proton was pointing out

  • exanime@lemmy.world
    11·
    3 months ago

    I don’t doubt it… I am looking hard at ProtonMail for the fam… but $290 a year is a bit of a hit

    • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz
      1·
      3 months ago

      I just checked the price, it seems like unlimited (with storage, vpn, pass etc) only cost $120 for the first year. And it is $156 for normal price.

      And if you only need mail, that only cost around $50 for the first year.

      Unless your $ doesn’t mean U.S. dollar?

        • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz
          4·
          3 months ago

          Oh, that is 6 user with 3 terabyte of storage. average to 50$ per user per year. In where I live, that is like 2 meals outside per year, and cheaper than office 365 personal.

          To me this is pretty good value, but I understand people are different. However, I cannot get them yet, as proton drive still don’t have a linux client (or any client for that matter)…

          • Nanabaz2@lemmy.world
            2·
            3 months ago

            As far as I know, tested, and using right now - rclone (through Round Sync) on Android support Proton drive. And it uses the same core as normal Linux rclone.

            So yes, there is a client - rclone. And believe me, my own Nextcloud and pronton drives are accessed through rclone. Most clients suck

          • fuzzzerd@programming.dev
            2·
            3 months ago

            Proton drive has windows and Android clients that work well. I’d love a Linux client for drive and for them to fix the photo upload issue on android, but eventually those things will come.

            • Nanabaz2@lemmy.world
              1·
              3 months ago

              For the moment. Round Sync on Android (use rclone) and rclone on Linux to just mount it. Better than any stupid client tbh

    • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 months ago

      It’s quite good value, especially the 2-year plan, if you actually use all the stuff they offer. I got my family there, but they are still not to eager to integrate all there is into their routines.

  • fl42v@lemmy.ml
    8·
    3 months ago

    Sending plain-text passwords is rather interesting, tho. Could’ve at least optionally encrypted 'em with a key derived from smth known by the user only.

    • Xy_Lemmy@lemmy.ml
      12·
      3 months ago

      I’m sure the PWA is the one that’s being talked about here. Notice the “new Outlook app” in the title.

  • penquin@lemm.ee
    5·
    3 months ago

    Been using betterbird(a fork of thunderbird) for a long time and it has been fantastic. Never disappoints.

  • heavyboots@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    3 months ago

    So obviously not to everyone’s taste but if you have access to iCloud+ email, your mail isn’t scanned for sale (as per their US privacy agreement anyway), you get randomized email addresses available to give to places that you think might be spammy and you can link a domain to your account, although you’re only allowed 3 email boxes per user in your family per domain. Works well for me so far. Mind you because of photo storage size and devices backups I’m up to $3/ month from the original $1/month when I started.

    Plus with Advanced Data Protection a lot of iCloud info is E2E encrypted. (Not email tho.)

    • noorbeast@lemmy.zipEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      I think your first point totally valid and justified, though the second is a little more nuanced, including Proton Mail making promotional mileage out of some genuine privacy and potentially security related concerns.

      • Kairos@lemmy.today
        616·
        3 months ago

        I hate these “news” articles which just summarize something else freely available on the Internet.

        • Night Monkey@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          3 months ago

          You have a good point. You generally don’t get the other side of the story. Mainly just op-eds that yeah one side. Would love to have actual journalism back.

          Arstechnica seems to be the last bastion of actual journalism even though sometimes I feel even they succumb to the click bait shit.

          I used to read ghacks daily. It’s like the drudge report of tech news. Maybe even blues news.