For context, I’m a USian who became interested in Islamic cultures as a young adult, and from there found something magnetic about the faith of Islam.

I have many LGBT friends, and whenever I’ve reached out to mosques, the answers I get are rather disappointing. The best one I’ve gotten still invalidates homosexual relationships. I’m cishet, but as I said I have many LGBT friends, and I’m also poly. I have a comrade who is trans and converted to Islam, and I see that many LGBT Muslims exist, but this confounds me, too. Even the most open-minded of them will say something is “what Muslims believe” and then clarifies that it is from a Hadith, not strictly from the Quran. The comrade I know is a “Quranic” Muslim - one who follows the Five Pillars and the teachings of the Quran itself, and I know the Hadith are controversial outside of the majority of Sunni Islam.

I want to be a more spiritual person, but the type of Islam I encounter promotes teachings I know in my heart to be wrong. I know, too, that many Christians, Muslims, and Jews have this odd personal combat with God, for lack of a better term - a struggle with the divine, wherein they work out various personal sins/failings or disagreements with the scripture. I know Jews that eat pork, Muslims who drink, Christians who don’t pray. I sense there’s a spirit to the faiths that is more important than adherence to prescriptions of the text.

I am white (part Native American, but this isn’t visible in my appearance or culture). No part of my lineage comes from any land associated with Islam. It feels like appropriation for me to want to convert to a faith, but then pick and choose which parts of it I want to believe and follow. I dabble in tarot and the occult. I’m poly. I believe all consensual love is valid and sacred. So, I guess my question is aimed more towards the Muslim comrades here who are LGBT or allies, who balance the secular with the spiritual, who might be able to show me the way:

How can I call myself a Muslim without compromising my beliefs? Is there a sect or denomination I can seek guidance from? Am I just wasting my - and your - time?

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    3 months ago

    Why do you want to convert, and why Islam? I personally think you can also personally practice the teachings of a religion without having to officially label yourself as a follower.

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      I say “convert”, but I really don’t have anything to convert from. I crave a spiritual community, I suppose, and Islam - from what I know of it - best aligns with my personal beliefs and preferences. But it doesn’t perfectly align, and that’s where my dilemma lies. Rationally I could just practice in private as I please, but I’m an odd soul who craves something more traditional, I guess. Heritage, community… I’m not sure how to explain it other than it appeals to me.

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        It sounds to me like you may need to find a branch of Islam that suits you better than the mainstream theological schools. Have you looked into Sufism? From what i know they tend to be more open minded about certain issues. The downside i assume is that it would be harder to find a community which practices it in your area, if having that community is important to you.

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          I have looked into them, and they appeal to me, but it is as you say. We only have the one mosque nearby. Perhaps I should just focus within that community for now and make connections. There may be Sufis in the community, or people who know more.

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        Heritage, community… I’m not sure how to explain it other than it appeals to me.

        That’s an essential part of Islam. The ummah as it is called.

        Which is also why Islam is deeply supported by the masses. Because it is embedded in the community.

        Islam is something you can’t practice in private, well up to a certain extent, there are exceptions to this, but that’s why in my primary comment, your first avenue to understanding Islam should be a local masjid and their imam.