• astreus@lemmy.ml
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    US: Let’s send weapons to our allies that are at war! Iran: We’ll do the same! US: shocked Pikachu face

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      With the litte difference that russia is a brutal dictatorship who invaded a sovereign country and Iran is a brutal dictatorship too.

      But I guess it’s the same anyway, right?

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          So you agree that the US should not invade Afghanistan and Russia should not invade Ukraine.

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              Whatever happened to that there Afghanistan? Surely the Evil US Pseudo-Democracy turned them into a territory of lower class to do hard labor for USA benefit, right? What’s that? Multiple nations across the world sent troops who destroyed the ruling Taliban authoritarian regime, created an independent republic government, and built hospitals and schools while raising the average life expectancy by ten years until the USA completely withdrew?

              Oh, maybe Russia just wants to fix up Ukraine a little bit and then leave, too? Just like they are doing with Crimea. /s

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            The situation in Ukraine is an inevitable escalation in the war that started in 2014 with the US-backed fascist coup in Ukraine that goes against the interests and wishes of Eastern Ukrainians

            https://iili.io/JX9sm8l.png

            and the subsequent killings of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, like Donbas, DPR, and LPR, by the coup gov for resisting.

            To be clear, I don’t support the invasion per se. In fact, its goal of suppressing fascism in western Ukraine seems to have kinda backfired from this after all, with the Ukraine gov using this as an excuse to suppress the left.

            But the point is, what else could’ve they done? The US had meticulously blocked off all other options over the years. Russia had already tried to join NATO multiple times from even before the USSR’s overthrow and have been denied (since it’s an imperialist org whose entire purpose is to suppress socialism globally, and particularly supress Russia) and they already had the Minsk agreements which the US sidelined through the coup. Not doing something about it would lead to the continued killing of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine by the coup gov, and NATO getting even closer to Russia since the post-2014 US puppet gov doesn’t abide by the Minsk agreements.

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              Can you share sources about how the coup was US-backed, how it was fascist, and on the ethnic cleansing of eastern Ukrainians? Ideally from human rights groups or independent news outlets like The Intercept if you can. Thanks.

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        invaded a sovereign country

        Thank god my wholesome democracy would never do that over and over again for my entire life, otherwise I might have to think about who they tell me the bad guys are.

        Also Ukraine is not a sovereign country. We stole their sovereignty ten years ago when we replaced their government with nazis.

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        The US is constantly and historically the ones propping up dictators all over the world. AND we have done it while people of those nations have either legitimately voted for the opposite, and/or were fighting for their freedom from colonial powers/dictators. We actively fund and create false narratives inside nations that we don’t like to start color revolutions. We force other nations into backing brutal sanctions if they don’t want us to go after them and to be allowed to trade with us. Our military is literally installed all over the globe, but we claim nations like China are somehow being “aggressive” for even patrolling their own areas. We create and groom evil and gaslight the world that we are somehow just allowed to police the globe. Fuck yourself.

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        Russia joined a civil war in progress on the morally correct side

        which the CIA said was going to happen if NATO kept expanding, back in 2008

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        Between Russia, Iran, and Ukraine, only two still have elections, and yet the one without is the one that isn’t a dictatorship?

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        The USA is a brutal dictatorship who invaded a sovereign country. What’s the difference exactly? The USA has invaded someone more recently than Russia has, and they do it a lot more often. They’re also more dictatorial and more brutal. The fact that the USA is mad at Iran for supporting their enemy is completely understandable. They’re not being hypocrites, it’s just mafia tactics and they’re not ashamed of it. What’s not understandable is you or anyone saying USA sending weapons to Ukraine and Iran sending weapons to Russia are somehow not equivalent.

        To be clear, I am not at all justifying or forgiving the use of sanctions, it’s a barbaric form of warfare that explicitly targets non-combatants, the USA should be ashamed and their leadership jailed.

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        All liberal “democracies” are brutal capitalist dictatorships.

        At least Iran and Russia’s interests are aligned with most of the world against imperial core countries.

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          Wtf did I just read? Have you ever been to Russia or any of the post-soviet block republic? Or are you just fantasizing from other side of the world?

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            I’m at Russia right now, I’ve been to Ukraine more than dozen times including twice to Crimea (Ukrainian at time of visit) and numerous times to Donbass (as Donetsk is literally hometown of my father). What’s next? Have you ever been to one of the listed places yourself or are you just fantasizing from other side of the world?