Seldom mentioned in the media is that he died from COVID-19.
Does anyone know if he has any pre-existing conditions?
(This is a joke)
He was perfectly healthy, truly had lungs of iron
Don’t make jokes about people dying, jackass.
some people get through trauma with various flavors of emotive tools, including sarcasm and humor.
I hear that “Gallows humor” excuse every single time and it’s only ever used so assholes can feel good about being assholes. It’s basically the “Women like getting r–ed” excuse that incels use to justify their shitty behavior. Yes sometimes they say that, but it’s not a justification.
You know full well nobody here was saying that to “get through hard times” you’re all safe on your computers punching down at dead people.
What are you the gallows humor police? Can I still joke about Hitler’s death or is that taboo now? I’m German so I have a Hitler given mandate to make fun of him and all the other nazis scum.
yeah, if they have a mutual emotional connection to the deceased. I don’t think these two ever met.
I’ve seen interviews with this guy. He had a surprisingly bright outlook on life. I think he would have found this funny.
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Why?
Why? It’s not like they’re feelings are gonna hurt. Lol
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Ain’t that a removed. One virus took his body. Another took his life.
Both are preventable through safe, effective, and widely available vaccines. Vaccinate yourselves and your children, friends.
Currently COVID-19 is not preventable through vaccination on its own, especially not at the currently recommended once-per-year schedule, because they don’t last anywhere near that long.
It is not preventable to get down with it, but the vaccines reduce its effects so much that even people with chronic breathing illnesses or organ transplants can handle it like a moderate flu. Mileage will vary from person to person, of course.
Your direct point stands, but it is still a huge win for pro-vaccination.
But the vaccine reduce the risk! That’s the most important part
Those are good but you also need to mask to prevent the spread of covid.
The COVID vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting COVID. It just mitigates the symptoms. You can still get it and spread it.
In other words, it does exactly the same as any other vaccine…
And what do you think people die from? The symptoms, knucklehead.
Wow, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning ?
Just tired of the “well, actually…” comments that make no sense.
I’m aware of that but the comment I replied to says the virus is preventable. You really think I understand how the vaccine works but not what people die from or did you just need to make a degrading comment?
I feel like this guy alone undercuts the whole meritocracy narrative quite a bit. I know the defenders of that worldview would go “okay, but except for all the exceptions…”, but in a lot of ways it’s just a more extreme version of the stuff that puts people in normal poverty.
Also, vaccinate your damn kids, everyone.
Send this story to every anti vaxxer and ask if this is what they want their kids to suffer this.
I have a wall right here if I need to bang my head against something. I don’t know, maybe somebody else reading has the gift of convincing irrational people of things, but I do not.
I brought it up partly just to vent, and partly for any fence sitters that might be lurking and hadn’t made the connection.
Have you ever tried screaming at clouds, much safer and sometimes the clouds will flip you off in return.
What if it’s completely clear?
Well you’re fucked then I guess.
I probably didn’t make it obvious, but I was talking in the general sense of “everyone should do this”. My bad…
Ah, okay. I’m still not sure if that would accomplish anything, though. They need deprogramming or something, not more yelling at.
They’ve already decided they don’t care for the suffering of other people’s children, the step to not caring about their own isn’t a far one.
Most people are wired to care about people that are familiar to them, instinctively, so I actually think it is a big step. Antivaxxers, as far as I can tell, genuinely believe the conspiracy theories and snake oil salesmen.
undercuts the whole meritocracy narrative
How do you mean?
A classic case of success against all the odds, to manage to become a lawyer at all is a challenge let alone when you live in an iron lung. It’s an argument for people saying that no matter who you are in society you can succeed and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.
Oooh, I see. Thanks.
I was missing this part:
and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.
Yup. Through no fault of his own, the dude spent his entire life lying motionless. Where’s the merit in that story?
It’s not really helpful on it’s own in a debate, because you’ll 100% get “okay, but normal people” back, and it takes way too long to unravel how there’s not actually a hard distinction between various degrees of disadvantage. You’re better off with a mini Gish gallop, since there’s no shortage of examples, and your opponent will be too embarrassed to say the African children were lazy directly.
You could also use actual hard numbers if your talking to an audience savvy enough and with enough attention span to get that. That’s a rare audience, though.
Oooh, I see. Thanks.
I was missing this part:
and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The disease left him unable to breathe independently, leading doctors to place him in the metal cylinder, where he would spend the rest of his life.
“Paul Alexander, ‘The Man in the Iron Lung’, passed away yesterday,” a post on a fundraising website said.
His brother, Phillip Alexander, remembered him as a “welcoming, warm person”, with a “big smile” that instantly put people at ease.
Phillip said he admired how self-sufficient his brother was, even as he dealt with an illness that stopped him performing daily tasks such as feeding himself.
Paul’s health deteriorated in recent weeks and the brothers spent his final days together, sharing pints of ice cream.
After years, Alexander eventually learned to breathe by himself so that he was able to leave the lung for short periods of time.
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The worst part is that if you’re stuck in that situation and want to get out of it via suicide, you literally can’t. Now he’s finally free.
He was able to leave the contraption for short periods of time. He was able to breathe on his own, but not well and would become fatigued quickly. He wasn’t as stuck as it seems.
Didn’t he choose this? There are modern replacements for the iron lung, when he was still able enough to get out of it he could’ve switched I think.
This guy could have gone trach/vent 60 years ago and been mobile on wheelchair.
Wow, this guy should be some sort of hero!
