• Coach@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      81
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      8 months ago

      Ain’t that a removed. One virus took his body. Another took his life.

      Both are preventable through safe, effective, and widely available vaccines. Vaccinate yourselves and your children, friends.

      • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        38
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        Currently COVID-19 is not preventable through vaccination on its own, especially not at the currently recommended once-per-year schedule, because they don’t last anywhere near that long.

        • Land_Strider@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          25
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          It is not preventable to get down with it, but the vaccines reduce its effects so much that even people with chronic breathing illnesses or organ transplants can handle it like a moderate flu. Mileage will vary from person to person, of course.

          Your direct point stands, but it is still a huge win for pro-vaccination.

      • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        8 months ago

        The COVID vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting COVID. It just mitigates the symptoms. You can still get it and spread it.

        • Gabu@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          In other words, it does exactly the same as any other vaccine…

        • Coach@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          8 months ago

          And what do you think people die from? The symptoms, knucklehead.

          • smeenz@lemmy.nz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            Wow, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning ?

            • Coach@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              Just tired of the “well, actually…” comments that make no sense.

          • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            8 months ago

            I’m aware of that but the comment I replied to says the virus is preventable. You really think I understand how the vaccine works but not what people die from or did you just need to make a degrading comment?

  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    108
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    I feel like this guy alone undercuts the whole meritocracy narrative quite a bit. I know the defenders of that worldview would go “okay, but except for all the exceptions…”, but in a lot of ways it’s just a more extreme version of the stuff that puts people in normal poverty.

    Also, vaccinate your damn kids, everyone.

    • YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      53
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Send this story to every anti vaxxer and ask if this is what they want their kids to suffer this.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        54
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        I have a wall right here if I need to bang my head against something. I don’t know, maybe somebody else reading has the gift of convincing irrational people of things, but I do not.

        I brought it up partly just to vent, and partly for any fence sitters that might be lurking and hadn’t made the connection.

      • Crikeste@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        8 months ago

        They’ve already decided they don’t care for the suffering of other people’s children, the step to not caring about their own isn’t a far one.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          Most people are wired to care about people that are familiar to them, instinctively, so I actually think it is a big step. Antivaxxers, as far as I can tell, genuinely believe the conspiracy theories and snake oil salesmen.

      • Sizzler@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        8 months ago

        A classic case of success against all the odds, to manage to become a lawyer at all is a challenge let alone when you live in an iron lung. It’s an argument for people saying that no matter who you are in society you can succeed and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

        • bartolomeo@suppo.fi
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          8 months ago

          Oooh, I see. Thanks.

          I was missing this part:

          and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          Yup. Through no fault of his own, the dude spent his entire life lying motionless. Where’s the merit in that story?

          It’s not really helpful on it’s own in a debate, because you’ll 100% get “okay, but normal people” back, and it takes way too long to unravel how there’s not actually a hard distinction between various degrees of disadvantage. You’re better off with a mini Gish gallop, since there’s no shortage of examples, and your opponent will be too embarrassed to say the African children were lazy directly.

          You could also use actual hard numbers if your talking to an audience savvy enough and with enough attention span to get that. That’s a rare audience, though.

        • bartolomeo@suppo.fi
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          8 months ago

          Oooh, I see. Thanks.

          I was missing this part:

          and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The disease left him unable to breathe independently, leading doctors to place him in the metal cylinder, where he would spend the rest of his life.

    “Paul Alexander, ‘The Man in the Iron Lung’, passed away yesterday,” a post on a fundraising website said.

    His brother, Phillip Alexander, remembered him as a “welcoming, warm person”, with a “big smile” that instantly put people at ease.

    Phillip said he admired how self-sufficient his brother was, even as he dealt with an illness that stopped him performing daily tasks such as feeding himself.

    Paul’s health deteriorated in recent weeks and the brothers spent his final days together, sharing pints of ice cream.

    After years, Alexander eventually learned to breathe by himself so that he was able to leave the lung for short periods of time.


    The original article contains 583 words, the summary contains 133 words. Saved 77%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    8 months ago

    The worst part is that if you’re stuck in that situation and want to get out of it via suicide, you literally can’t. Now he’s finally free.

    • Shou@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      He was able to leave the contraption for short periods of time. He was able to breathe on his own, but not well and would become fatigued quickly. He wasn’t as stuck as it seems.

    • jose1324@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      8 months ago

      Didn’t he choose this? There are modern replacements for the iron lung, when he was still able enough to get out of it he could’ve switched I think.