Am I the asshole for being insistant about “wanting to murder the entire Romanov family”?

Around 4 months ago I was invited to see the school musical “Anastasia” by some theater kids that were friends of mine. I already knew the framing and content of the play is utter reactionary nonsense, but I decided to actually go yesterday night to watch to support my buddies.

The musical itself had good production quality, and there were some great unintentionally funny moments in there, too. I was dissapointed that the one communist didn’t brutally blow Anastasia’s brains out, but I definitely think the play gave me some resolve and inspires violence in me.

Anyway here is the main part, lol. It isnt the most precise retelling of events, but generally what went down, spare the details. After the play I was chatting with a bunch of the cast, and apparently one of them heard that I would have shot the Romanov family, if I was in the position to, (which they heard from a seperate friend that is actually socialist. ) I didn’t deny it, and I actually fully leaned into it. “The Romanovs had no qualms on the treatment of their people. There would be no room for abdication, no humbleness to step down, obly death, ETC…” One giggled, another person gasped, “Do you feel no sympathy for them?” My friend (who played Tzar Nicholas) asked me something like:"Would you shoot the Romanov’s even if it was me?! " “No sympathy. And yes, I would shoot regardless of personal connections” and I quickly left into the crowd. Since then, my friend has been avoiding me? idk he seems not happy with me. Am I the asshole here?

Either way, I would rather be perceived as an asshole than be a liberal in content.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    Nicolas was “citizen Romanov” by then

    Drawing on the Chinese example, PuYi abdicated in 1912, then in 1934 the Japanese put him on the throne as Emperor of Manchukuo. 20 years of being just a regular guy (in theory) did not diminish his usedulness as a figurehead.

    More broadly, the focus on the Romanov children is just a vector for the spread of anti-communist propaganda. Capitalists, reactionaries, liberals, and fascists will cry crocodile tears for Princess Anastasia while voting to bomb brown children without a single second thought. They don’t care about children, they care that children are sympathetic and can be used to spread their message. It’s no coincidence that the white supremacist 14 words end with an appeal to securing an existence for their children.

    The propaganda aspect is especially obvious since OP’s friend invoked the nonsense emotional appeal of “would you shoot the Tsar if he were me?”

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      8 months ago

      Drawing on the Chinese example, PuYi abdicated in 1912, then in 1934 the Japanese put him on the throne as Emperor of Manchukuo. 20 years of being just a regular guy (in theory) did not diminish his usedulness as a figurehead.

      That’s pretty much the “strategic situation” I mentioned - there was real risk of them falling into the hands of the Whites. What I meant to point out is that there was no good reason to just up and kill him at the time. Its not like he was in command of the movement or anything.

      More broadly, the focus on the Romanov children is just a vector for the spread of anti-communist propaganda.

      Sure, but not coming from me. Still regrettable, not something to replicate.

      The propaganda aspect is especially obvious since OP’s friend invoked the nonsense emotional appeal of “would you shoot the Tsar if he were me?”

      Yyeap. Even modern monarchist schitzos get some people into their bullshit by riling them up about it and many don’t wanna hear nothing about there having been no orders from Moscow afterwards.

      There is a reason Soviet textbooks talked about the topic sparingly if at all. It wasn’t something that went as planned or desired at all.

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      Capitalists, reactionaries, liberals, and fascists will cry crocodile tears for Princess Anastasia while voting to bomb brown children without a single second thought.

      The propaganda aspect is especially obvious since OP’s friend invoked the nonsense emotional appeal of “would you shoot the Tsar if he were me?”

      From OP’s friend’s perspective, it’s likely a sensical appeal coming from a place of valuing life, which is an excellent opportunity to force him to confront the contradiction.