• CommunistBear [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Honestly, good. The fact that elected officials can exist in the world without any consequences for their actions is one of the most frustrating parts of our society. Sorry AOC, no movie for you while you support genocide

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      Politicians in America especially Democrats are elected by taking entire policies hostage and being like “If you don’t elect me then the republicans will take away your right to exist” then proceed to do nothing to actually protect the policy until it gets taken down and then they go “If you don’t elect me then the republicans will take away your right to exist but worsely”.

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      I’m definitely not defending her, but she’s doing this to avoid getting primaried again. Amerika has a billion little ways to maintain control of things.

      (Edit: I’m not saying that avoiding a primary is worth it to ignore mass murder)

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          If the democrats truly cared about winning they would loudly and proudly champion things the majority of Americans support (ie, not wanting a fucking genocide).

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            That’s not how it works in America. Campaign contributions win you elections. Without a stream of cash flow from campaign donors, you’re not winning anything. That’s how the system is designed to work.

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              I mean, I don’t not agree with you. The democrats clearly care more about winning corporate donors than elections. And if they do win then they govern in a way to keep those corporate donors for the next election.

              That doesn’t change the reasoning that democrats could leverage public sentiment to win election after election. It’s just that that same public sentiment goes against the interest of capital.

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                I also don’t disagree. What I’m saying is that the system is rigged to give disproportionate power to the campaign donor class.

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          I could see it either way, I just don’t know the demographics of her district. I know a neighboring district has various degrees of anti-hamas posters on every telephone pole, not that some organized poster spamming should be presumed a fair representation of the constituents.

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        Chapo had a guy on semi-recently who advanced a pretty compelling narrative, not that she was an op, but that she was just never as progressive as her support base wanted her to be. Same thing basically happened with Bernie, everyone who is even just center-left really wants someone to glom onto and these are the best options the system is capable of spitting out.

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          She fired her activist chief of staff who fought for her during the election, and replaced him with a former Kamala Harris’s foreign policy aide.

          She could deny all she wants, but her initial electoral success was built on a progressive base who volunteered and staffed her campaign office.

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          I think this is a pretty sane read on it. People love projecting their hopes on the young, new upstart (see: Obama) and it makes them feel like there’s some momentum, and maybe some room to get them to back more progressive stuff.

          Any “progressive” democrat that retains their seat after one election is sus to me, because we have seen how the DNC destroys all things leftist.

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          Idk wearing an “eat the rich” dress, openly id’ing as a socialist, the chief of staff issue mentioned below, feels demonstrably more left-signaling than the Biden term

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        I’ve had this hunch for a while. Her initial win came out of nowhere and she defeated Joseph Crowley, a very embedded Democrat who had been around for a while. He was even Democratic caucus chairman at one point. I thought it was a case of Democrats accidentally leaving the door unlocked but now I’m more tinfoil hat

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          It’s probably also a situation like where Tlaib finds herself. A very safe district with a demographic unlike most other districts

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        I doubt she’s an op, I think she’s just a massive pushover and was always more Lib then her base.

        Somebody on here a while back read a book about her and did a pretty good write up, made it sound like she was just a habitual people pleaser, when talking with more left wing people she said more leftwing stuff, when around Lib colleagues she said Lib stuff. It’s simple as that.

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        What’s this theory? I think the system is transforming people like AOC because they probably realize you can’t get shit done when you’re outnumbered by hundreds. It’s not her fault change can’t come from within. But this doesn’t excuse her or anyone of condemning a genocide.

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          I don’t remember a whole lot of specifics but I read an article someone posted on here looking into AOC’s career at Boston University (she interned for Ted Kennedy) and noting that her career as a bartender wasn’t particularly long. I think it’s mostly speculation but the idea that she picked up some establishment connections during her internship doesn’t seem very outre.

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            I feel like more people should run on platforms that basically say “I can’t promise I’ll get what we want done, but I’ll fuck their shit up any way I can and be your eyes and ears in that cesspit. There will be no second term anyway”.

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    She’s running so she can make it on time to the next DSA anti-china public lecture series on how everything that’s being accused of Israel is actually happening in China, sweaty

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      Which is exactly what they would be saying if these people were protesting McConnell or Kavanaugh.

      The current treatment of protesting by the supposed “left wing party” in this country will be the final nail in the coffin for protesting for another generation.

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    Like 3 years ago I was on Twitter and I saw a tweet about how AOC would have enabled the rise of Hitler. I thought it was inflammatory and hyperbolic then, but that dude was 100% correct.

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      I remember in like 2016 all the people saying things like Bernie killed Rosa Luxemburg. Back then I thought it was a little hyperbolic, that maybe compromise with social democrats could still be done. Now I’m 100% with the Stalin quote

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        I would honestly be fascinated to see an honest interview with bernie where somebody asks him how he feels that his legacy will be convincing two generations of progressives that electoralism is a dead end.

        Something something power levels 4d chess something something.

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      President Ocasio-Cortez, reluctant as she was, summoned the Freikorps Proud Boys to crush violent leftist uprisings across American cities demanding for single payer healthcare as medical bankruptcy skyrocketed under her watch.

      “You’re not helping.” Her words when addressing the nation on live television and justifying the use of violent force to restore law and order.