• Leviathan@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    If climbing has taught me anything, it’s that lifting (deadlifting in this case) is no indication of grip strength.

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      9 months ago

      Kinda. It can help grip strength a lot, or at least holding weights in that way can. But its not a grip strength exercise. Deadlifts, barbell/dumbell shrugs, farmers carry, curls, etc… stuff like that can all help improve grip strength while not being the primary goal of the exercise.

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        9 months ago

        Either lots of pull-up bar related exercises, like hang-toughs, towel-pulls, and L-sits, or these things

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        9 months ago

        Any sort of exercise that removes the thumbs and metacarpophalangeal joints from the equation, if you can close your hand, lock your grip and hang off of your skeleton you’ll only add so much to your grip. There are actual crimping blocks and rolling handles you can attatch to weights to strengthen your grip.

        Emil Abrahamsson seems to think that hangboarding is the answer to this problem, he suggests holding a hangboard without lifting your total weight off of the ground on the smallest ledge you can manage, twice a day, every day, to turn your grip into iron. He recently beat a lot of pound for pound grip championship records so I think his training techniques are worth paying attention to.

        That being said, climbing itself might be the answer since these elite dudes routinely hang off of the absolute tips of their fingers while lifting their bodies up a wall and even for someone who can deadlift a shitton getting used to lifting your weight on crimps takes months to achieve.

        It’s also worth saying that you have very few muscles in your hand and grip strength is more a game of strengthening tendons and ligaments, which takes a lot longer than strengthening muscles, which might be why one of the guys with the most world records in grip strength right now is 70+ years old.

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            9 months ago

            I looked it up because I couldn’t figure out how the hell to refer to a specific row of knuckles, first? second? do you count from the palm or the tip? figured better to be precise.

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              I dig it. I inferred that joint from your description but had to look up the term to be sure.

              Punch knuckles, not door knocking knuckles. Climbing needs more strength in the door knocking knuckles, whereas many grip strength exercises like deadlift do more work on the punching knuckles, the metacarpophalangial joints.

              I’ve seen doodads that connect to the fingertips to focus work on the proximal interphalangeal joints.

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                Great descriptions! Lately I’ve been working on the (pardon me, I couldn’t find a use for them) distal interphalangeal knuckles, just hanging from my finger tips. Pretty much all the good climbers at my gym can do that with weight added on a belt so I’ve still got a long way to go. But yeah I used to lift pretty heavy and this was pretty much impossible before I started practicing, just seem like totally different parts of the body although they’re all in the hand.

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    9 months ago

    Just heat up the lid a little bit.(if the lid is metal)

    You can use hot water, although I have found rolling the lid on my electric stove for 10-20 seconds works better because then it’s not wet after.

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      I wonder if they actually use the same trick to actually put the lid on as-well to create as-tight of a seal as possible

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        9 months ago

        I assume all parts are heated first because that’s how you ensure it’s sterile. It also serves to make a slight vacuum once cooled which will keep everything sealed.

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      9 months ago

      Slide the tip of a dull knife under the side of the lid, then apply a little leverage so air can get in. Even easier, and wastes no power

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    I just wanted to say that a 200lb deadlift isn’t all that impressive, especially if you look like buff doge. I guess he skips leg day a lot

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      If you want to reuse the lids, you can just pry the lid a little and let the pressure equalize. That way there is no dent and sealing it again will work properly.

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    Increase the lever, don’t try to open it with your wrist, do it with you whole arm the fingers must do the friction and the wrist must stay still.

    That or you can always shot the jar open

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, I know the other tricks like running warm water or tapping the edge, and those are fine. But honestly use your arm instead of your wrist and most jars pop open. Torque that thing!

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    It’s because you’re not using the same muscle groups. Simply set the pickle jar on the ground, put your power foot on the jar, grip the lid, and heave with your entire lower back and glutes in the open direction

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    9 months ago

    Literally me. I deadlift 700 with hook grip, 500 double-overhand, and I still struggle. I just smack the lid on the edge of the counter a bit to help.

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    9 months ago

    Most of us non gym people are the other way around. Not me, I’m weak everywhere.

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      9 months ago

      Yea, idk why the pickle jar is so hard to open at the gym. It’s like it’s trying to embarass me!

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    There’s usually a high friction between the jar lid’s deformable seal, and the lip of the glass jar itself.

    A gentle knock of the lid on the edge of the counter will reduce the friction effect, making it far easier to open a ‘stuck’ lid.