I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It’s getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I’m following postmarket but I’m not sure if they are the most promising. What’s your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don’t want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

  • Pantherina@feddit.de
    6322·
    8 months ago

    Tbh GrapheneOS.

    Android is Linux.

    And unlike desktop Linux it was able to spread secure and private standards

    • every app is sandboxed, not some opt-in like Flatpak
    • apps start with no permissions (or at least very little), everything is opt-in
    • it is like 99% unbreaking, immutable, it just always works while my desktop Linux broke all the time
    • there is a webview, which can be hardened. Not Electron, which is insecure and bloated
    • energy saving etc work like a charm. 1% battery loss over an entire night!
    • hardware security with trusted element is decades ahead of desktop Linux (Ubuntu is just now getting TPM encryption support)
    • it is a unified platform, with tons of apps, many of them essential (as the platform is so secure), like 2FA, Banking, public services etc. you can have a full FOSS phone though

    I am sure excited for other operating systems but they are just toys. GrapheneOS does amazing work that is a 100% alternative today, for real phones with normal prices, good performance and outstanding security.

    • FreeBooteR69@kbin.social
      433·
      8 months ago

      When i think of Android i don’t think of it as part of the gnu/linux ecosystem, but a heavily modified linux kernel turned against the user.

      • Pantherina@feddit.de
        36·
        8 months ago

        How is it turned against the user? Androids Linux is highly restricted in that it doesnt support a lot of things, but that makes it extremely stable, while this doesnt mean that apps are also “stable” like in Debian

        • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
          2·
          8 months ago

          They don’t expect users to do development on android.

          (Phones should be used like telephones lol.) I’m going to buy a landline phone

          • Pantherina@feddit.de
            1·
            7 months ago

            No a phone is an end device. But I dont think GPL or whatever says you need to be able to modify the code on that device.

            Makes no sense.

            Btw as I only said this in another comment, afaik android runs a tailored LTS linux kernel. It is not as bloated as regular linux as it contains device drivers and also doesnt need all the random drivers for whatever hardware to run on a specific phone.

            So you can say android restricts freedom in exchange for security, but “linux kernel turned against the user” makes no sense. Their kernel is just fine.

    • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
      92·
      8 months ago

      On GrapheneOS right now typing this, love it! I switched over about 2 years ago to Graphene and never looked back. Rarely have any issues, solid battery life, all my apps work, life is good and private.

      • dragnet@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        42·
        8 months ago

        Almost everything you said here is false, with the exception of controversy over the developer. However, GrapeheneOS is far from a single developer project, and the former lead stepped down a little while ago.

          • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
            11·
            7 months ago

            Edit: since this clown calls me “misinformation” spreader and asks for evidence, it is easy to look at one of the two long investigation articles I wrote, in which in share DivestOS XMPP room chat logs with Micay bullying DivestOS dev into banning me otherwise he will initiate a harassment campaign on social media against him.

            Don’t think that’s related

            Similar stuff was done (calling neonazi in issue tracker) against Bromite project that used what should be open sourced code, but is not.

            https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1537851090514890752

            That’s personal emotion against bromite and lead to unacceptable wording. But Micay can’t force others to remove their code if they do not violate it. nevertheless, Vanadium code is free in Linux communities’ opinion, right?? (I’d not consider that since it is GPL)

            simply: The license of vanadium is still gpl and is it free in your opinion?

          • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
            22·
            7 months ago

            There is no freedom in his code licensing

            Evidence required.

            Most of them grant infinite freedom, with one requirement. (Not restrictive like *GPL.)

            Others like vanadium are restrictive under GPL

            https://github.com/GrapheneOS/hardened_malloc/commit/c3a580727a9a844da05ae4e2787a937253b09427

            You guys should not listen to TheAnonymouseJoker, this is the evidence of him spreading misinformation.

            (Please note I’m not in GrapheneOS community (banned), nor putting myself in the class of privacy racers.)

      • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
        11·
        8 months ago

        harassing and witch hunting any critics

        You can criticize GrapheneOS just because Micay will care about your words. But you can’t do with something like OpenBSD because the developers are much knowledgeable and they never cared your words. They maintain an operating system for themselves and will not develop features to please users.

        You can only criticize some small project with a developer that isn’t good in communication. You are truly a petty person.

        having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this

        No loser, the community is the army. (their quality isn’t better than any Calyx or Lineage). The developers don’t even have enough time to please user with a beautiful user interface then why they would screaming on social medias like you are doing.

        But they maintained hardened_malloc and you never take a word for it.

    • Captain Beyond@linkage.ds8.zone
      87·
      8 months ago

      Android is Linux.

      This should be repeated in every “Linux phone” thread.

      It’s also possible to install a full GNU userland using Termux, and nowadays a graphical interface is even possible with Termux.

      • Zamundaaa@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        61·
        8 months ago

        It is repeated in every single damn “Linux phone” thread, and in every single thread an answer like this is needed: No, it fucking isn’t. You know exactly what everyone means, stop being a dick about it.

        • Captain Beyond@linkage.ds8.zone
          21·
          8 months ago

          It is repeated in every single damn “Linux phone” thread

          Good. The more people pushing back against falsehoods, the better.