Sorry to post the Poll Pot acount again lol
Also this
They’re just inventing ‘tankie’ again. Horseshoe theory and its consequences yada yada
This person also has “AOC stan account” in the bio.
Reminder that Ukraine has banned all left-wing parties.
Hazites keep trying to infiltrate and take over my org (CPUSA).
It sucks because they keep harassing trans comrades and Autistic comrades like myself (never mind BIPOC ones like myself).
We’ve kept kicking them out and many don’t pass vetting, but it hasn’t been without its damage and great damage, I would argue.
r/stupidpol and its consequences
have been a disaster for the communist movement
there
finished the quote for you
;)
Damn that sucks ass. Sorry.
Yeah, Haz wants to take over CPUSA “by 2036”
Hence, the oft repeated PatSoc slogan “CPUSA 2036.”
He’s also friends with Jackson Hinkle and Caleb Maupin.
Each one of them has 10s of thousands of followers with Hinkle having over 100,000 on YouTube, I think.
I believe Rainer Shea has also become a PatSoc recently and has been on Maupin’s streams.
You can see where them telling their fans to infiltrate and take over the CPUSA would be a problem.
They’re trying to commit mass entryism.
These goofs have ties to LaRouchite organisations and this stuff is straight outta the LaRouche playbook.
LaRouche used to harass the CPUSA in the 1980s and also was against the anti-apartheid movement in the USA (regarding South Africa).
At one point, they started throwing churches at a church by a large amount that was anti-apartheid and called for divestment.
I saw LaRouche’s thoughts on mother-daughter relationships and I’m just
LaRouche was also a CIA asset or at least an asset of the FBI.
LaRouche’s thoughts on mother-daughter relationships
Cant find anything on google, can you ruin my day?
Damn twitter is becoming real.
No joke.
They’re fucking feds, I tell you. Or so I think.
They’re using social media accounts to galvanize people to commit mass entryism on various orgs. They apparently did this with the American chapter of the KFAUSA (or, at least, they may have a “PatSoc problem”). I questioned a PatSoc about this who turned out to be an anti-Semite during a Twitter Space and he was… fucking skittish. He wouldn’t give a straight answer.
The leading patsocs are absolutely feds.
So when Haz wasn’t even a thing yet, I remember seeing a suspiciously polished promo video for INFRARED that immediately set off alarm bells for me. Also strangely, I can’t seem to find that promo video anywhere now.
I also remember not long after the channel started seeing a clip of Haz on a girl Twitch streamer’s stream and the title was something like “Haz flirting with ____” and the whole thing struck me as overtly trying to appeal to lonely young men on the internet, in a similar vein as gamer gate, red pill garbage, etc. Basically following the Steve Bannon/Mercer Family social media manipulation playbook. I haven’t really dug into it, but I’d be curious to see if there are any links with patsocs to people like Steve Bannon or Aleksandr Dugin.
He got recommended on r/chapotraphouse a few times, and because I don’t watch streams or go on twitter, I had no idea who he was for like… A while into chapo.chat
Dugin, yes. At least philosophically. I don’t know if his networks in Russia have any links to them in the US.
But Bannon, sorta. Peter Thiel funded right wing podcasts and ecelebs including Red Scare.
Dude, they have to be, especially Jackson Hinkle.
Yeah, there’s something very weird about how he went from “guy on youtube that literally no one has heard of” to appearing on Tucker Carlson’s Fox show in a matter of months.
They’re fucking feds, I tell you.
I was wondering why they were specifically interested in CPUSA, and this clears it up. Good luck in your fight against them anyway.
I’m not a fed. We’re literally being attacked by feds.
I’m sure you aren’t, I’m just saying that the central body of the org was compromised over a half-century ago by the HUAC and friends
Wdym?
CPUSA aren’t feds, contrary to Internet rumors.
Man I gotta ask, why are you so in on CPUSA? You’re talking about all of their major institutional flaws like this.
What? What major institutional flaws? I’m not talking about its flaws right now and this has nothing to do with that.
What does it take to join? How are these people possibly getting into the party?
We have a vetting process, but some are extra-sneaky. It’s not a problem anymore, especially thanks to Joe Sims (one other reason why he’s more popular than John Bachtell and beat him in election), but they still keep throwing people at us and some pass through the cracks.
Oh, by me saying that it’s “not a problem anymore,” I mean the worst is basically over.
This isn’t a problem in my CPUSA branch. We simply ask all new members to car bomb the state legislature, and if my handler catches them they
have toare allowed to join.Handler? That isn’t a position.
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You shouldn’t fed-jacket other leftists. The PatSocs attacking CPUSA, I can understand, since they’re right-wingers. But many MLs in the CPUSA do mutual aid with some even running soup kitchens and collaborating with orgs such as PSL and FRSO.
That sucks a lot, but also it’s the CIAUSA so it’s not like it was in a good place before.
The CPUSA is not compromised by the CIA.
tongue in cheek or?
I don’t know if the person is just making a joke about my org or saying something in an “ironic” way so I don’t know. I suppose it could be tongue in cheek, but idk
you’re in the CPUSA?
Of course.
where do these people hallucinate these ideas from? You read Lenin and outside of capitalists the people he hates the most are who he calls national chauvinists.
they’d have a point if they were talking about like 1930s Europe. The fascists then would scoop up socialist party members by arguing fascism could be more efficient at delivering the same goals. So a good number of fascists were former socialists in that case. I think there’s one statistic that the Bavarian branch of the Nazis were majority former KPD members.
A lot of people back then must have misidentified the threat of fascism. All the racist aspects must have seemed much more normal back then, or rather, being explicitly racist didn’t sound much different than any other party
I swear it’s a case of being terminally online.
I see this same echo-chamber conversations happening all the time on places like Va*sh’s subreddit - “Hey guys, I know that none of you are what we call tankies and virtually none of you ever were (with the exception of a couple of people LARPing as model apostates and maybe one or two “Wow, cool flag!!” tankies) but I was wondering if you can fanfic me some armchair psychologizing about what the values, beliefs, and motivations of this group of people are for me so we can all congratulate ourselves on agreeing with eachother”
Like, they could just ask a tankie. They could observe tankies in their natural habitat (screengrabs of the worst takes posted into r/TankieJerk do not count). They could actually read and engage with the literature that tankies tend to agree as being critical.
But no. They just want neat little stories that reaffirm their biases and which require no effort and no introspection.
I used to be an anarchist for a very long time, longer than some of these types have been alive for, and I can speak their language if they ever bother to engage with me in a respectful way. To be entirely honest, I really loathe talking to anarchists and the libertarian left but not for any of the reasons you’d expect - it’s because I know their arguments, I know their takes on history, I know their values because I was one of them and I know that if I managed to make myself into an ML through careful investigation that I’d be able to do the same by talking with others and, tbh, it’s a horrible experience having the paradigm that you engage with the world dismantled before your eyes. I wouldn’t wish it on others and I certainly don’t have the capacity to do the pastoral care or midwifery for someone who is going through this process but at the same time I wouldn’t want to just wreck their shit and abandon them to the mess either because that’s how you create doomers, fascists, and statistics out of people. I’d much rather be surrounded by completely ideologically-committed anarchists than a bunch of nihilistic ex-anarchist doomers who are completely paralysed because they have nothing that they believe in anymore; that only serves the interests of capital and the forces of reaction.
All the claims they make about tankies do not describe me:
- I’m not young or naive
- I’m far from being power hungry and I still strongly dislike wielding any actual authority
- I’m not a simp for any old dictator
- I don’t engage in blind apologism for atrocities commited by communist parties
- I don’t like the state
- I didn’t come to be an ML because I think the flags are cool or through absorbing Red Army propaganda
- I don’t like Putin and I think that his claims of denazification are a just cynical justification for a geopolitical manoeuvre to curb the encroachment of NATO, although there are a lot of Ukrainian fascists being chewed up by the Russian army
- I’m not a blind China simp
- I don’t accept anything that comes draped in a red flag - I have no love for Pol Pot, for Gonzalo, or PatSocs etc.
- I’m not some book worshipper
- I actually engage in activism in my real life
- I don’t own a Mao suit or a ushanka
I’ve read a decent amount of theory. More anarchist than communist. I’ve read a decent amount of history. I didn’t just stumble into my current political position accidentally or through some sort of opportunistic desire to achieve my own personal or societal goals - none of me actually wanted to renounce anarchism, I still wish that I saw it as a viable path, and I don’t think many people know how hard it is to abandon a worldview when you’ve invested a huge amount of time, effort, identity, and social connection into it.
Sometimes I entertain ideas of going into these sorts of discussions and having an open dialogue but then I remember how blinkered these people are, how desperate they are to have their preconceived ideas reaffirmed, and how inconsequential they are by virtue of their grass-deficiency.
Why are so many ultras incapable of following democratic centralism and split over every disagreements they can make up to justify their more-left-than-left faux purity which they claim strengthens socialism and undermines reaction but historically has always ends up strengthening reaction and weakened socialism.
Haz guys make me wish I had the means to apply line voltage to peoples’ motherboards remotely
What the fuck is a Hazite?
Haz/Infared is one of the leading patsocs. His social reaction and support of Russia that isnt at all critical way of thinking has a lot of sway on bird site. Along with Jackson Hinkle and Caleb Maupin. Most of the “MLs” on there are socially reactiontionairy faux-MLs who follow his line of thinking. This has convinced people on there that this is what Marxism Leninsm actually is.
didn’t he use to post here or the chapo subreddit?
Yeah, we suspected the account was his and he got bullied out of here pretty quick IIRC
The closest I come to a ban on here is when I bully haz lmao
Basically: socialists who are all about nationalism. Don’t look up what national socialist means in German.
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I’m afraid to ask, what does (e-) mean?
An electron.
I fking hate those lepton-MLs
Only Hadrons in this fking house
239Pu comrades always splitting
I think theyre (rightfully) indicating that its unique to internet MLs.
electronic, like in e-mail
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