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- sino@hexbear.net
We’re good friends and I just thought I’d share this with all of you.
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The war on terror actually led to the murder of an estimated 3-4 million people during the last twenty years. 1 million is just Iraq, this is not including how the destabilization of the region led to the civil war in Syria, it does not include Libya, it does not include Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan.
chad
I like this but disagree because China is definitely doing way more than nothing. Not just anyone can build up their productive forces and navigate an extremely hostile international environment.
Exactly. they’ve been manufacturing a ton of commodities for European and Amerikkkan consumers for decades. It only looks like they’re “doing nothing” because the labor of 2nd and 3rd world countries is always made invisible to 1st worlders by the obfuscation of international trade and resale practices.
And the international aid and solidarity they’ve shown through infrastructure projects, low/no interest rate loans, international organizations etc which undermine imperialism and are working to create an equitable alternative system of global trade are all huge too
Oh, hello again, my friend.
Howdy.
Glad to see you again outside of Discord.
do nothing
you mean “don’t do finance imperialist demon praxis”
China is not doing nothing. They are doing industrialization and economics so advanced that it has lobotomized every single China watcher who has gazed upon it.
But haven’t you heard?!
Xi is finished!
I just gotta say this post made Christmas come early
My Chinese friend uses VPN from Shanghai.
He really “gets” American meme culture lol
This meme is good because honestly sometimes I read statements from the Chinese state that genuinely sound EXTREMELY forgiving of American crimes and it kinda blows my mind. I’m also aware that during the 2000s and even as late as the mid 2010s there was a sort of “big brother little brother” mentality among the Chinese where development would be secondary to the US but in tandem with it. I don’t know a lot about China, so that could be wrong, but seeing this meme is a nice change of pace and makes me feel like they’re being more realistic about the situation.
Oh yeah for sure
Do nothing, Win*
*Casually ignore the massive Palestinian lives lost, ignore global south countries like Yemen having to actually do the moral correct thing and certainly paying their own price for it in the future…
So much winning
You can dunk on the US’s mistakes all you want. Don’t take pride on sitting on your ass while everyone else has to actually go and fight.It would cause World War 3 if they joined it.
This has the same energy as saying Iran isn’t doing anything because it hasn’t reduced Tel Aviv to rubble with cruise missiles.
never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake
Okay I kinda get what you’re saying, China could do more certainly, but.
everyone else has to actually go and fight.
Mf are you trying to instigate a 3rd world war? Chinese troops engaging American proxies (and let’s be real, covert forces) in any theater on the planet would pretty much be the beginning of world war 3. The only exception is Taiwan because it’s isolated to just the South China Sea.
the best thing China could do for Palestine is invade Taiwan
Thank you, sharing is caring 🥰
Of course!
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Amerikkkan crackers love to drag out Xinjiang like ICE camps don’t exist and the CIA doesn’t still operate several extralegal and classified torture dungeons outside of US soil.
The most deranged accusations of evangelical psychos like
were highly curated atrocity propaganda already disproven by UN delegations from Muslim majority nations actually visiting Xinjiang and concluding that a genocide is not occurring. But even if it was true, I’m not going to cheerlead for Uncle Sam or Capitalism under any circumstances. There are no doubt legitimate proletarian criticisms of China to be made, but none of these liberal lemmings are ever interested in that.Everytime the quote on quote “Xinjiang concentration camps” get brought up in the news the first thing it makes me think of is how the first time they properly entered the news cycle (as opposed to just getting some token gestures on like fox news and stuff) was two or so days after it was revealed that non-white immigrants to the US were being unconsensually sterilised in ICE camps.
Basically, every accusation is an admission.
It’s so transparent to anyone paying attention
The US operates torture dungeons worse than the libs’ most inhumane parodic versions of the gulags, on US soil! You can’t call these people out on their hypocrisy, it doesn’t work. There is no internally consistent bridge justifying these beliefs in their heads, the evidence just slides off the smooth brain like water off a duck’s back.
beautiful
genocidal settler state supporter scrambling to invent a moral high ground
Cope
I don’t need the moral high ground, you should just stop pretending you have it
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Muslim majority delegations from the UN visited Xinjiang and concluded that the accusations of genocide invented wholecloth by evangelical right wing psychopath Adrian Zenz and parroted uncritically by American media were false. If you live in the United States I welcome you to join me in protesting actual ICE concentration camps instead of manufacturing consent for the fascist US military to go to war with China.
The US, its allies and the World Uyghur Congress
(a CIA front by the way)have accused Beijing of committing genocide against the mostly-Muslim Uyghur ethnic minority which is contested by the Chinese government which claims they are combatting terrorism and separatism.In 2019, 22 mostly Western countries in a joint statement to the High Commissioner to the UN condemned China’s crackdown on Uyghur Muslims. However, a day later, 37 other countries signed their own letter defending Beijing’s human rights record, and dismissing the reported detention of up to two million Muslims. Nearly half of the signatories were Muslim-majority nations.
Why are Muslim majority nations coming to the exact opposite conclusions about Xinjiang as the United Snakes and its allies? Why are you uncritically parroting an imperialist geopolitical narrative invented by the United Snakes and its allies?
The US’s CIA has continually funded extremist separatist groups like ETIM in order to destabilize Xinjiang. Xinjiang’s response was to build more schools, more hospitals, more housing, educate people against extremism, and give them jobs. The US and its allies called these concentration camps because it was convenient. Amerikkka spent 20 years bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia and Yemen. They are actively supporting genocide against Palestinians. And I am supposed to believe America and its allies is shedding sincere tears for Muslims in Xinjiang? These are the same fuckers responsible for the Abu Ghraib torture scandal. These are the same fuckers who leveled Fallujah (and used white phosphrous while doing it) after a bunch of blackwater mercenaries got killed. These are the same fuckers who used depleted uranium and gave a whole generation of Iraqis way higher cancer rates than normal, including childhood cancer.
They’re too busy smugposting to read any of that, you know how these drones operate.
I do it for the lurking audience who may be undecided
Thanks for posting this I was afraid I was gonna have to do it, but all I wanted was to post an emoji and laugh
Lurker passing by
I have plenty, you’re just a close minded racist lib piece of shit who isn’t worth the effort
Hope you die in a fire
Ooh you happen to know all that about me based off a handful of comments, you’re just so cute when you think you know what’s going on
Yeah, people like you are basic as fuck
You got all your opinions from
funded mainstream media, 
or Jonh Oliveryou happen to know all that about me based off a handful of comments,
my CIA funded liberal NPC dialog is special!!!
you’re just so cute when you think you know what’s going on
says the zero historical materialism mf, you have neofeudal serf mindset, please read a single book lol
Ooh you happen to know all that about me based off a handful of comments
And you happen to know all about China based off a handful of articles written by some Christian fundamentalists German guy.
We know you because we’ve encountered you like 3 hundred million times. This is the average hexbear experience every time another enigmatic, unknowable, bet-you’ve-never-heard-that-before Very Smart liberal shows up parroting the same old propaganda and cope.
You’re not saying anything original
Nice ad hominem
Hey you fucks started a slap fight, I’m just stooping to your level
Have you considered posting less if it makes you feel like you’re in a slap fight? All they did was ask for evidence for your claim. I realize how hard it must be for you having been insulated from leftist points of view and having never had to consider the idea that you’re anything but the good guys. But that’s not how the discourse has panned out historically. Best of luck in your personal development, you fucking child.
We started the slap fight by what? Going into your instance making claims about things we don’t know anything about?
Calls china fascist and then calls other people braindead
you should just stop pretending you have it
You will never hear a redditor condemn Amerikkkan prison slavery because they support it
So you admit you have no morals and you don’t care about morality.
Quite the admission there. You think that helps you somehow?
“You don’t understand the only way to handle Muslim extremism is to bomb children to death”
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Have you considered the possibility that the side bombing children in the thousands is lying about the other side?
That’s the first thing I’d do if I was bombing children and wanted people not to think I was evil incarnate.
Genocide is okay when it’s entirely fictional.
Xinjiang doesn’t even have travel restrictions for foreigners, you can literally just go there.
Basically every single accusation of a Uyghur genocide can be traced back to Adrian Zenz, who believes he’s on a fucking ‘mission from God’ to destroy China.
Not only that but he hasn’t shown any proof, his claims come from complete speculation on satellite images. I bet the dude has never even step on China nor does he speak a single word of mandarin or any dialect from the region.
He has shown “proof” a couple times. Like that time he showed proof of China sterilizing people in Xinjiang that actually showed the opposite, because he “accidentally” moved a decimal one place over
So why does the World Uighur Congress (lmao such a bullshit name) stand with the oppressors in
and not their fellow oppressed people in 
?Because their people aren’t being genocided, they’re just a bunch of reactionary gusano trash licking the boot of
love when people cite the uyghur congress like its not an overt cia front organisation
You talking about Israel right now? Or the concentration camps on the US border?
All can be true.
Nice strawman though
One is sanctioned by your government, one your government funnels weapons to. Which one is your responsibility?
This isn’t a highschool debate and nobody here has to engage with you in good faith.
Do you have evidence of the concentration camps?
Well since good faith is out the window, I don’t have to have my own personal proof, plenty of people have shown evidence, entire governments are in agreement
Do you have evidence they are all lies?
I know being a liberal means your brain’s fried, so I’ll make this simple: There is no genocide in Xinjiang.
If you disagree with the above statement, then prove it.
You made the claim, the burden of proof lies with you.
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Every single news outlet has stopped talking about them, but they’ll readily go after anything China does with a rabid zeal matching that of the energy they had in the early 2000’s whenever a nation in the Middle East did anything
Nearly every Muslim nation does not believe ‘genocide’ happened
The UN believes no genocide is happening
That is the evidence it is lies
Where’s your evidence it is true, embedded quotes that trace back to a German anticommunist who believes he is on a mission from God to destroy China? Radio Free Asia, which was FOUNDED to spread anticommunist agitprop?
entire governments are in agreement
Yeah and literally all of them are white western US allies contractually obligated to hate China
Not a single Muslim majority, even those that are US allies, have said shit
Yeah, why are crackers being offended on Muslims’ behalf?
entire governments are in agreement
The muslim ones?
Oh wait. You mean the white ones. Lmao. Crakkkers.
plenty of people have shown evidence
Such as?
entire governments are in agreement
Any of them Muslim majority nations?
If there’s plenty of evidence, show it. Show the deaths and sterilizations if they ever happened surely there’s bodies or photos or videos if it’s happening at scale? Where is it?
This entire thread has been people patiently debunking your bullshit, yet you, being the spineless crap person that you are, only choose to snidely respond to the few that don’t post these debunkings. However thru your entire comment chain you have so far failed to provide a single shred of evidence.
In short
To be fair I wasn’t patient but I had just woke up and I was kinda hangry
LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY
WHAT? Screaming that over and over doesn’t mean I win
Maybe Amerikkkans should focus on ending the genocide being done by their close allies rather than supposed genocides other countries that they have no direct influence over are doing.
Why don’t you focus on stopping the genocides you are actually doing than make up hypothetical genocides your enemy may or may not be doing to get mad about? You are guilty of the crimes of genocide if you don’t condemn and oppose America in every way
Muh fallacies tho
They’re asking you a question. Learn what fallacies actually are, if you wanna use them as rhetorical tool. Otherwise you just look like a regular tool.
Shut up, dumbass. Why do you insist on talking about shit you have no idea about?
Good ad hominem
Good fallacy fallacy
Nerd
You got me
That’s not what an ad hominem is you fucking idiot. An ad hominem isn’t just someone insulting you. It’s specifically someone saying you are stupid, therefore your argument is wrong. Venus isn’t relating to your argument, she’s just insulting you. Read up on the things you claim knowledge of you colossal moron
Informal fallacies aren’t real. Try again.
Petition for this emoji to be called “zyklon zenz”
Star Trek liberal who never watched DS9 checking in.
"Wow I can’t believe Garak would just lie about assassinating a Romulan senator for political gain and Sisko would just cover up for him.
Anyway, I doubt my own government would do that."
