• Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    If partying hard is a crime then throw me in jail.

    Also reactionaries really need to give this “disaster for dad Joe’s campaign” shit a fucking rest already. There’s a very long list of legitimate criticisms that people have of Genocide Joe, and his son dropping a mil on hookers and blow is not anywhere close to the top of it.

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      I’m not opposed to this perspective but Joe fuckin Biden is the guy who wrote the '94 crime bill. He argued in the Senate to put motherfuckers in prison for renting warehouses to ravers. This man’s son does more drugs than most of the people in prison from his bill, and yet he’s not in prison. It’s absolutely ripe political fodder for attacking him, there’s no reasonable argument for his kid not being affected by his awful policies other than he knows they’re awful and he doesn’t want his son affected by them. He should be attacked for this shit, it should be a normal way to criticize him. If his kid shouldn’t be in prison for the obvious, well documented crimes he does, why should anybody elses?

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        I’m not opposed to this perspective but Joe fuckin Biden is the guy who wrote the '94 crime bill.

        Yea, but that was just meant to put black people and extremely poor white people who hang out with black people in prison, not rich failsons of billionaires and politicians.

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        Beautifully put. It’s not like Hunter Biden being in jail is going to make me feel good either. Let other people’s sons and daughters out of jail for shit no one cares about. If you would then decide to get help for addicts then you’d have my non-American vote so fucking fast

        Edit: he’d face jail time for tax memes, not for the stuff normies go to jail for. Hehexd moment

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          They dont have to be consistent. They can use it because its the sorta thing liberals are supposed to care about. Everyone knows the republicans are assholes. The dems try to make everyone think they’re the good guys.

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          Is it really confusing? They will use any angle to attack their opponents, I don’t think it’s anything new. There’s nothing internally consistent about the Democrats or the Republicans, I can’t see why they would need consistency on this one subject.

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        I mean yeah I’m not saying we shouldn’t go after Hunter for the tax evasion or whatever (not the drug crimes, nobody should be in jail for doing drugs). But speaking of Papa Biden, I just don’t think it’s that big of a deal compared to the other stuff he’s done (the aforementioned crime bill, funding a genocide, opening up more oil drilling despite staring down the barrel of an existential climate crisis, etc). Conservatives won’t criticize him on those things because they agree with most of them, so they bang the Hunter Biden drum because it’s about the only thing they have. They deserve to be mocked for spending absurd amounts of time and taxpayer money on something that barely fucking matters rather than the actual important issues affecting the country.

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      Paying $870k on sex work is absolutely staggering and there’s no way that he was a John for potentially thousands of escorts without being involved in human trafficking, statutory rape or just outright rape. The dude is a rapist and human trafficker. This isn’t “partying”. He took advantage of their addictions to cocaine as well I’m sure.

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        Okay yeah that’s fair. But I still think the media’s hyper focus on this issue is way overblown.

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          It is useful to point out the double standard between us lowly peasants and the upper class. Hunter’s father is the one who put harsh minimum sentences on millions of people for the same crimes his son gets away with without issue for years.

          Also, Joe is laundering his corrupt money through his son so it is relevant. Hunter is the vessel through which all the Ukraine plunder flowed, and it’s a necessary part of understanding why the Democrats went so all in on Ukraine (heavy financial intertwining and corruption)

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            Looking at this through a leftist and class conscious lens, absolutely, the Bidens should be held to the same standards as everyone else. But the right-wing ghouls conducting this investigation and many of the rags reporting on it aren’t doing it for justice. They don’t care about that. They actually love punitive drug laws. To them this is nothing more than “payback” for Dems prosecuting similar cases against Trump and his nepo babies. They’ve been floating the idea of impeaching Biden since before he was even inaugurated and have been fishing for any reason to do so. Not to mention I bet if you dig deep enough into Congress alone you could find dozens or even hundreds of elected officials who have also spent tens of thousands on drugs and sex workers, but few of them will ever face so much as a moment of scrutiny.

            I could get on board with going after Hunter if the same standard was applied to the rest of them.

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              But the right-wing ghouls conducting this investigation and many of the rags reporting on it aren’t doing it for justice. They don’t care about that. They actually love punitive drug laws. To them this is nothing more than “payback” for Dems prosecuting similar cases against Trump and his nepo babies. They’ve been floating the idea of impeaching Biden since before he was even inaugurated and have been fishing for any reason to do so

              Cool, let them fight. Hope the Republicans do as much damage as possible to Genocide Joe, who gives a fuck. Hopefully it distracts and paralyzes him.

              Not to mention I bet if you dig deep enough into Congress alone you could find dozens or even hundreds of elected officials who have also spent tens of thousands on drugs and sex workers, but few of them will ever face so much as a moment of scrutiny.

              Okay? That’s no reason to go easy on Biden corruption, just a reason to go harder on congressional corruption. Use the dirt on Biden to bring him down, damage and delegitimize these bourgeois political institutions. It’s better to focus on something that will cripple Genocide Joe domestically in the news than 99% of what American news focuses on

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                idgaf about the parties themselves but the working class in America still suffers while congress wastes their time fishing for reasons to impeach biden. which won’t even fucking do anything even if they succeed, because neither did the last two impeachments. Hunter wasn’t an elected official, the courts should be handling this, not congress. Bureaucratic inefficiency matters to me when it causes people to suffer. like obviously neither party is going to get better but it still helps to vent about it

                and I’ve never suggested going easy on biden, either of them. i’m just saying none of this is going to result in any substantive or material changes for the working class in america, other than hastening the collapse of this racist piece of shit empire.

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                  idgaf about the parties themselves but the working class in America still suffers while congress wastes their time fishing for reasons to impeach biden.

                  You think the Democrats or congress will ever help the working class of America? The best we can hope for from bourgeois dictatorships is paralysis and collapse and incompetency. If congress was united right now they would be pushing through more border walls and more Ukraine funding, a functioning American congress is a bad thing. The best case scenario for us is that they are distracting themselves and causing contradictions to lock-up. I would rather congress waste its time with this theater shit than push more funding for Ukraine

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        I’ve only seen the photos that have been posted recently, and honestly everything seems consensual? All seem to be adults, all seem to be okay with being photographed, all seem to be legitimate sex workers. I’m not scoping out everything about this guy, but it doesn’t look like the sex is his main problem it’s his connections to power/money and avoidance of consequences due to said power and money.

        Edit: someone lower did mention that with 870k worth of sex that probably does include some human trafficking. And he was on the board for that Ukrainian energy company and Ukraine was a big hub of human trafficking before the war so yeah sexual predator is probably right.

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        What does it take to stay completely, amply, and ethically satisfied, like hiring a high-end sex worker every night? Maybe in the ballpark of 200k a year? More than that, then there’s a huge imbalance going on.

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      It’s not so much his son blowing the money per se, more that it’s bloody obvious where this dude is getting that kind of money (bribes that went to him to influence Joe).

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    On one hand it is quite funny how Hunter just couldn’t handle the family obligation to be a cruel killing machine (literally or metaphorically) in order to advance his and his family’s political career, so he became a drugs & party dude.

    On the other hand, it is terrible how Hunter just gets to do whatever and the worst consequence for him is that he goes to a cool island resort where they help him with his drug habit, but normal people will absolutely be brutalized by the state for doing 5% of what Hunter is doing and the person who passed all the laws that brutalize people for it is Joe fucking Biden.

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    Single handedly keeping the sex work industry afloat during the ongoing economic crisis.

    Seriously though holy fucking shit that’s more than his dad’s entire net work when Biden was VP, isn’t it?

    Also, Daily Fail so lol who knows.

    Seriously, though, was his job in Ukraine really that lucrative? Where the hell was the money coming from? I thought Biden was poor af back during the Barack O’Biden years.

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      Joe Biden was “poor” because he didn’t hold the corrupt bribes and assets personally, he set up a patronage network to all of his extended family that he had effective control over. He was rich as fuck obviously.

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        IIRC his brother owns (owned?) a private island that was adjacent to Epstein’s 👁

        Edit: looks like he sold in 2020, 8 miles away from Little St James

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      Burisma alone paid him $1m/year from 2014-2016, then $665k in 2017, then $498k in 2018, then he resigned from the board in 2019. He also made $11m between 2013-2018 through some relationship with CEFC China Energy conglomerate

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      I spent so long laughing with him that I forgot to consider how addiction has its hands wrapped tightly around him. On that level I feel for him and hope the giga rich rehab worked/works for him.

      Edit: the proximity to a human trafficking hub in Ukraine and the sheer scope of money used on sex workers means that he’s a tad less sympathetic

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    He is also alleged to have used the business line of credit to make $27,316 in payments to an online pornography website, ‘which in total accounted for one fifth of all of the business line of credit expenditures.’

    h o w

    The only way this makes sense to me is if he was paying for custom videos or something, but that just makes me wonder about the content

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      Yeah, I have to assume they wouldn’t report on it with such casual phrasing if it was, like, CSAM or something, but I’m pretty sure actual producers pay less for videos.

      I think there’s no real explanation except that it was one of those websites that facilitates contact so the sex worker (or someone who presents as being them) is able to milk you for money over time, in which case it makes sense.

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          Sorry it was his much younger female cousin (who he also “accidentally” sexts in a different conversation, so add incest to the list)

          Idk about you I don’t use my young female cousin as a pimp to find binders full of women she can “give me”. There’s something seriously fucking weird at play here and it’s not just “partying”

          Of course the media just focused on the slur at the end for Asians instead of the entire context of where it comes from (ordering women a la carte from his pimp cousin)

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            Good post, between this and his position in ukkkraine (child trafficking capital of the world before the war, probably even worse now) it’s been pretty obvious he’s doing some shady shit possibly even approaching the same level as epstein

            Then again I’m also the guy who still thinks ever-given was a CIA op aimed at China and not just a really cool boat that hates capitalism so what do I know

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    Anyone who doesn’t understand how this relates to Joe has a baby brain. I guess all those Ukrainian and Chinese private equity investors gave brain dead, crack addicted hunter millions to blow on hookers and makeup because of his astounding business acumen

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      The “best” lib answer is that sure, they paid Hunter for influence but Joe didn’t actually do anything for them. Which a.) isn’t how conflict of interest works, it’s the situation itself that’s the problem, and b.) strains credulity, since after the first few hundies if they weren’t getting anything in return you assume they would just stop.

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        The funny thing is they’re just reaping what they sowed when going after trump. “The swamp” is fucking real, the entire thing is stacked with corrupt weasels, and I’m sure if you started turning over rocks around basically any senator and their families you would pull out countless instances of corruption and inappropriate behavior though certainly not to this extent.

        And I agree with you the libs trying to sell us joes innocence must think we’re the dumbest motherfuckers on earth

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          It’s like, libs want us to be mad about George Santos. He’s doing penny ante corruption while someone like Pelosi is really cashing in.

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    i think he should run for president. he’s well connected and has the presidential gravitas and relevant experience the country expects.