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    Elon is writing a book where the protagonist Xitler was sent back in time to stop Xews from bringing about Armageddon. Its called the aXis of Timelers

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    I know this is just a meme, but mini rant time here.

    “Free speech” literally just means the government can’t arrest, censor, or penalize you for just for the things you express. Of course, there are exceptions for public safety, fraud, etc…

    If Musk loses advertising revenue, that is the advertisers exercising their free speech in a free market, and deciding who they associate with.

    These crybabies like Musk are upset at having consequences, and throwing a tantrum about their freedom of speech is an intentional red herring and attempt to recontextualize reality so they end up being the victim of some ephemeral bully.

    The richest and most powerful people on the planet are not being persecuted.

    They are just not used to being called out on their bullshit and are too weak and immature to accept being told they are wrong sometimes.

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      They don’t want free speech they want to force your eyes and ears open, strap you to the chair and shout all the things they wanna say to you 24/7 also you’re not allowed to do anything but agree.

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    I mean yeah this guy is some sort of narcissistic of something. You won’t see him self reflecting.

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      You’re right; he didn’t specifically say that. He called a Twitter post that said Jewish people hate white people was “so right.” And that’s a big Neonazi thing.

      So… he didn’t say Hitler was right, just that a major Nazi tenet is.

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      I didn’t. If anyone passing through has a link to it, I’d like to check.

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      10 months ago

      You’re free to speak. Other people are free to hate you for what you say. That’s how it works.

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        People do hate freedom of speech though.

        A lot of people are very much against humans being free to speak their mind. They would like People to be incapable of that or they would like to be protected from it.

        What you are saying no way contradicts that.

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          Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences. If you say awful things people will use their free speech to tell you you’re an awful person. That isn’t hating free speech. It’s hating you. Hating you isn’t illegal.

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                  Homie, I’m Canadian, it’s beyond the constitution of the US. We don’t have unlimited free speech because it fucking leads to genocide and violence. I will fight to the grave to ensure that tolerance only extends to the tolerant. This is what generations fought a nearly world ending world war over. It’s worth fighting over, you don’t have to agree with me.

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                  Only if you definite it to be limited to there. Free speech or the lack thereof is a condition of existence for a group of people.

                  Free speech is just that the government shouldn’t be able to punish you for what you say. Nothing else.

                  What you describe is governed by the social contract. Noone should be forced to listen to what other people say, and people can freely decide to distance themselves if someone says something they don’t agree with.

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              You’ve conflated punishment and consequences. You have the freedom to hold some morally repugnant view like white nationalism, and your freedom of speech protects your right to express those views. But your family can hear those expressions, and cut you out of their lives, publicly condemn those views, or you for holding them, without affecting your freedom of speech. A company can refuse to allow you to use their platform to spread those views without affecting your freedom of speech.

              What can’t happen is a politician or government official use their powers to suppress your speech, arrest you, unless your speech act harms people, like shouting fire in a crowded theater. People disagree about exactly what those exceptions should be, but except for a few small but loud conservative groups trying to censor things like LGBTQ content, this basic premise is pretty uncontroversial, at least in the US.

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              The government punishing people. I am not the government. I can point out that you are a fool to think you are otherwise immune from the consequences of what you say.

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              What in the world ever made you think that was a reasonable thing to say? Do you really believe that its your right to not only say what you want, but also never have anyone have a negative opinion of it? That is completely insane. Like actually I’m worried about your mental health. Seek help.

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          Dude… They’re not disliking freedom of speech, they’re disliking the contents of your speech. You’re free to say whatever the hell you want. We’re also free to call you an idiot if we’re so inclined.

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          Do you believe that Ben Shapiro is merely speaking his mind when tries to argue that allowing children to transition will increase the suicide rate when literally all available data about trans children shows the exact opposite? Do you believe that Steven Crowder is merely speaking his mind when he “proves” global warming is fake by showing that Antarctic ice levels are higher in October than they were the preceding August while ignoring the steady downward year-over-year trend modulated by the seasons? Do you believe that Donald Trump was merely speaking his mind when he called for his followers to march on the white house, or, more recently, called immigrants vermin?

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            I don’t know who those first two people are.

            But speaking your mind isn’t proof of anything. The ability to speak freely is freedom of speech. I’ll support anyone that is for freedom of speech and i think everyone should have the right of freedom of speech as long as it doesnt impact someone elses freedoms.

            Trump. I’m not even sure what point you are making about freedom of speech, you seem to be talking about intent not about freedom of speech. I’m not actually familiar with the point you mean.

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              i think everyone should have the right of freedom of speech as long as it doesnt impact someone elses freedoms.

              If you are against people using their freedom of speech in an attempt to take away the rights and freedoms of other people, then I’d think you’d find that most people do support freedom of speech the way that you do.