‘Despite Muslims and Jews having lived together for centuries, Zionists claim opposition to their state is due to Muslims hating Jews,’ says anti-Zionist rabbi

Real believers in Judaism mourn the crimes being done to Palestinians by the state of Isr•el, as these violations are clearly barred by their faith, said a spokesman for an anti-Zionist group.

"In our religion, killing and stealing are clearly forbidden. (Isr•el), on the other hand, establishes its state by taking it from the Arabs. That’s why we are crying with the Palestinians,” said Yisroel Dovid Weiss, a rabbi and spokesman for Neturei Karta, a group founded in Jerusalem.

In an interview with Anadolu, Weiss discussed the principles of Zionism, the founding ideology of the state of Isr•el, as well as the use of violence against Palestinians and the appropriation of land.

Weiss said there are many people who confuse Judaism and Zionism and are confused about this.

“Zionism is the ideology of the state of Isr•el, which tries to present itself as the Jewish state. They claim that they represent Jewish religion, they claim that they are speaking in the name of G·d.

They claim that they are the voice around the world of Jewish people that have an attachment with G·d or the Torah. That’s not true,” said Weiss, referring to the first five books of the Jewish and Christian scriptures.

Weiss highlighted that those “who speak up against” this situation are often labeled “antisemitic” or “haters of the Jewish people and their religion.”

He said that in reality, Judaism and Zionism are fundamentally opposed to each other.

He said Zionism led to the Great Catastrophe (Nakba) in 1948, with the founding of the state of Isr•el, which resulted in the forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.

‘Judaism and Zionism are opposed to each other’

"Judaism and Zionism are as different from each other as the earth and the sky; they contradict each other. Judaism is about submitting to Almighty G·d, while Zionism is the name for extreme nationalism that aims to possess everything related to forming a nation,” he said.

Weiss stressed the significance of expressing gratitude in line with the Torah, noting that the Jewish community, who enjoyed centuries of prosperity in regions under Muslim rule, was warmly welcomed by Muslims.

He also said Zionist ideology often resorts to an argument that is not accurate, claiming that “Muslims harbor hatred towards Jews.” He said: “Despite Muslims and Jews having lived together for centuries, Zionists claim that opposition to their state is due to Muslims hating Jews. The state of Isr•el, in every aspect, acts in direct contradiction to the tolerance and prohibitions of the Torah.”

“As devout Jews, we pray to G·d every day for the swift removal of the Zionist state of Isr•el, which has caused so much bloodshed among Palestinians and Jews. We pray to G·d for the speedy liberation of Palestine. May Palestine be free, and may the world serve G·d in harmony,” he added.

Weiss also claimed Jews adhere to the commandments of the Torah, but such obedience is not present in Zionism.

"They do not adhere to the Ten Commandments of the Torah and do not observe the Sabbath. On the Sabbath day in Isr•el, everything continues as usual. Therefore, calling themselves a Jewish state is complete nonsense, deception, a mockery.

“The state is not backed by a religion but an ideology. Someone proudly told the Zionists that they are democratic. Of course, when we look at how they treat Arabs and Muslims, saying this is quite laughable,” he added.

Citing the Torah’s famous Book of Exodus, he said; "We, as Jews, made a covenant with G·d on Mount Sinai to obey Him and never violate the Torah. This covenant still stands. We adhere to it, being Jewish requires it. But Zionism was established approximately 150 years ago, and it equates ‘Israel’s territory’ with Judaism. It has no connection to the religion of Judaism.”

Judaism, according Weiss, says that even in an uninhabited (desolate) area, the establishment of a Jewish state is clearly forbidden.

“To declare the existence of a Jewish state is direct rebellion against G·d. This is because we are in an exile that we were sent to by G·d. We will remain in that exile until a metaphysical change occurs, where all of humanity will serve G·d in harmony,” he said.

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    One thing that US-centric and Israeli media like to stress about Neturei Karta is that they are a ‘fringe sect’. This clashes, of course, with the general language Rabbi Weiss uses in claiming that ‘religious Jews’ do not support and have not supported Zionism.

    For those curious about that contradiction and what historical contradictions it might bear traces of, Chapter 3 (‘Zionism is Judaism’) of Ilan Pappé’s Ten Myths About Israel summarizes the historical position, a pre-1948 consensus, in which that sect roots itself:

    long quotation on the early reception of Zionism among religious Jews, especially the Orthodox

    The third critique on Zionism in its early days [the late 19th century] came from the ultra-Orthodox Jewish establishment. To this day, many ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities vehemently oppose Zionism, although they are much smaller than they were in the late nineteenth century and some of them moved to Israel and are now part of its political system. Nonetheless, as in the past, they constitute yet another non-Zionist way of being Jewish. When Zionism made its first appearance in Europe, many traditional rabbis in fact forbade their followers from having anything to do with Zionist activists. They viewed Zionism as meddling with God’s will to retain the Jews in exile until the coming of the Messiah. They totally rejected the idea that Jews should do all they can to end the “Exile.” Instead, they had to wait for God’s word on this and in the meantime practice the traditional way of life. While individuals were allowed to visit and study in Palestine as pilgrims, this was not to be interpreted as permission for a mass movement. The great Hasidic German Rabbi of Dzikover summed up this approach bitterly when he said that Zionism asks him to replace centuries of Jewish wisdom and law for a rag, soil, and a song (i.e. a flag, a land, and an anthem).⁶

    Not all the leading rabbis opposed Zionism however. There was a small group of quite famous authoritative figures, such as the rabbis al-Qalay, Gutmacher, and Qalisher, who endorsed the Zionist program. They were a small minority but in hindsight they were an important group as they laid the foundation for the national religious wing of Zionism. Their religious acrobatics were quite impressive. In Israeli historiography they are called the “Fathers of the Religious Zionism.” Religious Zionism is a very important movement in contemporary Israel, as the ideological home of the messianic settler movement, Gush Emunim, which colonized the West Bank and the Gaza Strip from 1967 onwards. These rabbis not only called on Jews to leave Europe but also asserted that it was a religious duty, not just a nationalist one, for Jews to colonize Palestine through the cultivation of its land (not surprisingly the natives of the land do not feature in their writings). They claimed that such an act would not be meddling with God’s will; on the contrary, it would fulfill the prophecies of the Prophets and advance the full redemption of the Jewish people and the coming of the Messiah.⁷

    Most of the leading lights in Orthodox Judaism rejected this plan and interpretation. They had another axe to grind with Zionism. The new movement not only wished to colonize Palestine; it also hoped to secularize the Jewish people, to invent the “new Jew” in antithesis to the religious Orthodox Jews of Europe. This culminated in the image of a new European Jew who could no longer live in Europe, because of its anti-Semitism, but had to live as a European outside the continent. Thus, like many movements during this period, Zionism redefined itself in national terms—but it was radically different because it chose a new land for this conversion. The Orthodox Jew was ridiculed by the Zionists and was viewed as someone who could only be redeemed through hard work in Palestine. This transformation is beautifully described in Herzl’s futuristic utopian novel, Altnueland, which tells the story of a German tourist expedition arriving in the Jewish state long after it had been established.8 Before arriving in Palestine, one of the tourists had run into a young Orthodox Jewish beggar—he comes across him again in Palestine, now secular, educated, and extremely rich and content.

    The role of the Bible within Jewish life offered one further clear difference between Judaism and Zionism. In the pre-Zionist Jewish world, the Bible was not taught as a singular text that carried any political or even national connotation in the various Jewish educational centers in either Europe or the Arab world. The leading rabbis treated the political history contained in the Bible, and the idea of Jewish sovereignty over the land of Israel, as marginal topics in their spiritual world of learning. They were much more concerned, as indeed Judaism in general was, with the holy writings focusing on the relationship between believers, and in particular on their relations with God.

    From “The Lovers of Zion” in 1882 to the Zionist leaders on the eve of World War I, who appealed to Britain to support the Jewish claim for Palestine, reference to the Bible was quite common. In pursuit of their own interests, Zionist leaders fundamentally challenged the traditional biblical interpretations. The Lovers of Zion, for instance, read the Bible as the story of a Jewish nation born on the land of Palestine as an oppressed people under the yoke of a Canaanite regime. The latter exiled the Jewish people to Egypt, until they returned to the land and liberated it under Joshua’s leadership. The traditional interpretation, in contrast, focuses on Abraham and his family as a group of people discovering a monotheistic god rather than a nation and a homeland. Most readers will be familiar with this conventional narrative of the Abrahamites discovering God and through trials and tribulations finding themselves in Egypt⁹—hardly a story of an oppressed nation engaged in a liberation struggle. However, the latter was the preferred Zionist interpretation, which still holds water in Israel today.

    One of the most intriguing uses of the Bible in Zionism is that practiced by the socialist wing of the movement. The fusion of socialism with Zionism began in earnest after Herzl’s death in 1904, as the various socialist factions became the leading parties in the World Zionist movement and on the ground in Palestine. For the socialists, as one of them said, the Bible provided “the myth for our right over the land.”10 It was in the Bible that they read stories about Hebrew farmers, shepherds, kings, and wars, which they appropriated as describing the ancient golden era of their nation’s birth. Returning to the land meant coming back to become farmers, shepherds, and kings. Thus, they found themselves faced with a challenging paradox, for they wanted both to secularize Jewish life and to use the Bible as a justification for colonizing Palestine. In other words, though they did not believe in God, He had nonetheless promised them Palestine.

    […]

    Despite the historical evidence that the Jews who lived in eighteenth-century Palestine rejected the notion of a Jewish state, as did the Orthodox Jews in the late nineteenth century, this was rejected out of hand in the twentieth century.

    I strongly recommend reading the whole chapter, as it provides additional context as well as an overview of the history of Jewish political critiques of Zionism (as opposed to just religious ones), but hopefully this gives a sense of the historical perspective from which members of that sect speak of the incompatibility of their understanding of Orthodoxy with Zionism, and a bit about how it has largely been cooperation and involvement with the Israeli state that has coincided with a shift away from that original anti-Zionist position in other ultra-Orthodox sects.

    PS: The book is presumably on LibGen and you can also get a DRM-free (but watermarked) copy online from the publisher at the moment.

    PPS: I’d be happy to hear from comrades about more specialized/dedicated sources on this topic, since that book is more of a summary of arguments and histories of many related topics. It just came up for me because I happen to be reading it now.