I have sympathy for people with significant mental or health issues, but most of them are just fucking weak and would rather eat a tub of ice cream than have a nice/healthy body.
A healthy diet is more than just not eating unhealthy food. It’s about having the right balance of nutrition and that’s quite difficult in our world. Especially if you don’t have a lot of money. Or have other dietary restrictions.
Also no one wants sympathy they just want you to not be an arrogant prick.
A healthy body use the other end of the digestive system to out the useless calorie.
If you take on weight there is too much calories and something else that is wrong with your life style.
If everyone in a society takes weight there is too much calories and something else that is wrong with your society.
I agree that there are societal issues when it comes to obesity, there is a reason why it is so prevalent in some countries and so rare in others.
But there comes a point where people have to take responsibility for themselves, no one is forcing a fat person to drink ten litres of coca cola a day and it would be unfair of them to blame their gorging on the state of current affairs.
The last thing I would endorse is a nanny state that is controlling of what you can and can’t eat.
A healthy body use the other end of the digestive system to out the useless calorie.
So of course the majority of people who store the excedent calories have some sort of body disfunction. Maybe because they have mistread their body in the past, maybe for some other reason. Either way, it does not mean that are now capable for fix their body issue in order to be able to lose weight. Will power doesn’t explain it all.
Weight loss is simple calories in vs calories out, if you ignore absolutely everything that affects both sides of the equation.
Limiting calories in is almost impossible if your brain keeps telling you you’re hungry and won’t let you sleep until you stuffed your face. Increasing calories out is almost impossible if your job has you sitting on a chair all day and drains all motivation out of you, then you get home to parent your kids without a partner.
Calories in vs calories out is a nice simple way of thinking that works well if you’re healthy, young, financially stable and have free time, but for lots of people it’s just not that easy.
Limiting calories in is almost impossible if your brain keeps telling you you’re hungry and won’t let you sleep until you stuffed your face.
That’s called will power. It isnt easy but it is true. Stop over eating and you lose weight.
Increasing calories out is almost impossible if your job has you sitting on a chair all day and drains all motivation out of you, then you get home to parent your kids without a partner.
Again. This is willpower. Increasing your resting calorie burn rate is done the same way as increasing your active calorie burn rate, by exercising and building music.
There is not complex equation here. Eat less and move more. It really is that simple.
Source: me a previous fatty that is now a power lifter that has a desk job sitting 8+ hours a day.
“just have more willpower” is not advice that is going to help anyone.
And I’m almost 100% sure you were young, healthy, not struggling to make ends meet and had free time and no kids during the 1-2 years it took to make lifting and dieting a habit.
I disagree. It absolutely helps people realize that the problem is not external and is only fixable by doing something yourself. No one else is going to lose weight for you.
Thanks for your vote of confidence but I was in my 30s working 12+ hour days. Sure, I wasn’t poor and still don’t have kids though, but that is on purpose.
Additionally, I don’t and have never dieted. I’ve simply stopped overeating.
The excuses fat people are making in this thread are unbelievable.
“I eat too many calories because I’m poor, I have kids and I work a lot of hours”. None of that is stopping them from putting down the fork, nor are all people in a similar position over weight.
It’s simply a combination of greed and the inability to delay gratification. Why have a nice healthy body in a few months or years when you can have cake now?
Of course a healthy, balanced diet is advised, but we’re not talking about that, we’re talking about weight loss. You could eat nothing but burgers and fries and still lose weight, as long as you burn more calories than you consume, weight loss is inevitable and the easiest way to do that is simply to eat less.
I’m not arrogant, I’m opinionated and my opinion of fat people is just as valid as your opinion of me. But you’re probably only calling me a prick because the truth hurts.
I’m just trying to demonstrate that insulting people is not going to get them on side. And also spreading misinformation is unhelpful and dangerous, even if you didn’t mean to do it.
I don’t know why people are downvoting you. I feel the essence of what you said is true. I am weak and that is why I put on a lot of weight. Not because I didn’t exercise. But because I chose to eat tasty shit over healthy shit.
Something that took me a while to realise is that you don’t necessarily need to be eating rubbish food to gain weight, just too much. I think there’s this stereotype of the guy chugging down sugary drinks all day with his greasy burgers in between handfuls of sweets, but that’s not the case for most people.
What was a big help for me was getting a food scale, and working out what size portions I should be eating - particularly for carby things like rice and pasta I found I was way off on my estimates of what a decent serving should be.
Think less “Tour de france” and more “sunday boardwalk cruise” just trying to not let the pedals stop moving.
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A healthy diet is more than just not eating unhealthy food. It’s about having the right balance of nutrition and that’s quite difficult in our world. Especially if you don’t have a lot of money. Or have other dietary restrictions.
Also no one wants sympathy they just want you to not be an arrogant prick.
Weight loss is absolutely not about a balance of nutrition. Weight loss is about calories in Vs calories out. It’s that simple.
Whoever told you weight loss is nutrition dependant lied to you my man.
A healthy body use the other end of the digestive system to out the useless calorie. If you take on weight there is too much calories and something else that is wrong with your life style. If everyone in a society takes weight there is too much calories and something else that is wrong with your society.
I agree that there are societal issues when it comes to obesity, there is a reason why it is so prevalent in some countries and so rare in others.
But there comes a point where people have to take responsibility for themselves, no one is forcing a fat person to drink ten litres of coca cola a day and it would be unfair of them to blame their gorging on the state of current affairs.
The last thing I would endorse is a nanny state that is controlling of what you can and can’t eat.
Agree but why would you assume a fat person is drinking ten litres of soda a day ? They could have some sort of disease, diagnosed or not.
I thought that was obviously hyperbole. Obesity due to illness is a minority of cases of which I empathise, for most, it’s too many calories.
Like I said
So of course the majority of people who store the excedent calories have some sort of body disfunction. Maybe because they have mistread their body in the past, maybe for some other reason. Either way, it does not mean that are now capable for fix their body issue in order to be able to lose weight. Will power doesn’t explain it all.
Weight loss is simple calories in vs calories out, if you ignore absolutely everything that affects both sides of the equation.
Limiting calories in is almost impossible if your brain keeps telling you you’re hungry and won’t let you sleep until you stuffed your face. Increasing calories out is almost impossible if your job has you sitting on a chair all day and drains all motivation out of you, then you get home to parent your kids without a partner.
Calories in vs calories out is a nice simple way of thinking that works well if you’re healthy, young, financially stable and have free time, but for lots of people it’s just not that easy.
That’s called will power. It isnt easy but it is true. Stop over eating and you lose weight.
Again. This is willpower. Increasing your resting calorie burn rate is done the same way as increasing your active calorie burn rate, by exercising and building music.
There is not complex equation here. Eat less and move more. It really is that simple.
Source: me a previous fatty that is now a power lifter that has a desk job sitting 8+ hours a day.
“just have more willpower” is not advice that is going to help anyone.
And I’m almost 100% sure you were young, healthy, not struggling to make ends meet and had free time and no kids during the 1-2 years it took to make lifting and dieting a habit.
I disagree. It absolutely helps people realize that the problem is not external and is only fixable by doing something yourself. No one else is going to lose weight for you.
Thanks for your vote of confidence but I was in my 30s working 12+ hour days. Sure, I wasn’t poor and still don’t have kids though, but that is on purpose.
Additionally, I don’t and have never dieted. I’ve simply stopped overeating.
The excuses fat people are making in this thread are unbelievable.
“I eat too many calories because I’m poor, I have kids and I work a lot of hours”. None of that is stopping them from putting down the fork, nor are all people in a similar position over weight.
It’s simply a combination of greed and the inability to delay gratification. Why have a nice healthy body in a few months or years when you can have cake now?
Of course a healthy, balanced diet is advised, but we’re not talking about that, we’re talking about weight loss. You could eat nothing but burgers and fries and still lose weight, as long as you burn more calories than you consume, weight loss is inevitable and the easiest way to do that is simply to eat less.
I’m not arrogant, I’m opinionated and my opinion of fat people is just as valid as your opinion of me. But you’re probably only calling me a prick because the truth hurts.
I’m just trying to demonstrate that insulting people is not going to get them on side. And also spreading misinformation is unhelpful and dangerous, even if you didn’t mean to do it.
What misinformation?
I get your point, but some people need tough love.
What misinformation are you talking about? I don’t think I’ve said anything factually incorrect.
“Nobody wakes up fat” is a great line that I’m going to start using all the time.
I guess being a dick to people also happens over time after countless poor decisions
I’m not a dick to fat people, I just have no respect for them.
I don’t know why people are downvoting you. I feel the essence of what you said is true. I am weak and that is why I put on a lot of weight. Not because I didn’t exercise. But because I chose to eat tasty shit over healthy shit.
Thank you for being honest. I have my own issues that I know need to work on.
Fuck icecream is pretty good but
It’s worth dying for! :D
Something that took me a while to realise is that you don’t necessarily need to be eating rubbish food to gain weight, just too much. I think there’s this stereotype of the guy chugging down sugary drinks all day with his greasy burgers in between handfuls of sweets, but that’s not the case for most people.
What was a big help for me was getting a food scale, and working out what size portions I should be eating - particularly for carby things like rice and pasta I found I was way off on my estimates of what a decent serving should be.
Hit the down arrow for the cringe edit lol.