• TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page
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    9 months ago

    Food is full of water and takes a lot of energy to heat up. The plate is thin and made of easily heated material like ceramic or glass.

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      9 months ago

      fun fact: water should react most strongly to the radiation used in microwaves while ceramic plates and glass should be pretty much inert - feel free to test by inserting first an empty mug of your choice, then doing the same wirh the mug filled with water and coming back to us with your findings :)

      Here is a nice starting point for further reading

      also as a side note: metals also react very strongly and the strong reaction of metals combined with the weak reaction of ceramic materials is why microwave kilns are a thing (for an explanation see the appropriate section here under “modern kilns”)

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    9 months ago

    Every microwave has a specific 3d radiation wave harmonic pattern which determines the power distribution within the volume of your microwave enclosure. Most microwaves are strongest slightly to the left of center. If you want to test, put a full plate of mashed potatoes or something in your microwave, without the turntable. After a couple mins the temp readings at spots on the plate.

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    9 months ago

    It’s to with the relative ability of materials inside that microwave to absorb that frequency of microwaves: the microwaves just bounce around in that compartment until they get absorbed, and those materials with a higher absorption ability for microwaves at the frequency used in microwave ovens (“microwave” is a whole range of frequencies and those ovens are tuned to emitting just a specific frequency) will end up “taking” a higher proportion of them (and hence of energy) than the other materials and thus heat up more.

    If the difference in absorption rates is big enough you end up with a situation where one things is absorbing 90% (or a similarly large fraction) of the energy bouncing around as microwaves in that oven and leaving only a smaller fraction for the rest, and hence heating up a lot more.

    You get a similar thing if you put, say, cheese on toast next to a glass of water in your microwave oven: that cheese, which is mainly fat, will melt like crazy and the water will barelly have heated up, because water is nowhere as good as fat in heating up (I believe, but am not sure, that the actual frequency chosen in the microwave spectrum for use in microwave ovens was the one that fat best absorbs)

    That plate of yours probably is some kind of ceramic material with metal particles in it, so it’s better at absorbing the microwaves than the food, hence the plate captures most of the microwaves (so, most of the energy pumped into that chamber), hence heats up much more than the rest.

    The termal conduction between the materials with different microwave absorpion rates that heat differently in that microwave will tend to equalize the temperature over time, but unlike with the fat which is part of the food itself and thus will quickly equalize temperature with all the other stuff around it (such as with the water in the food but not, as in my example above, water in a glass which is separated from it), the food and the plate are only in contact is a very limited area (were the food touches the place) so the temperature equalizes much slower between both.

    Try a different kind of ceramic (in my experience that problem happens mostly with earthware, so try finer ceramic materials) or glass plates.

    In the meanwhile if using the current plates, you can just use a lower power setting in that microwave oven to give more time for the above mentioned process of the temperature equalizing by conduction to move the heat from the plate to the food, spread the food better on the plate to have a higher the area of contact and thus more the thermal conduction for heat transfer between plate and food, or just leave the plate there with the food for a little while after the heating cycle is over so that more of the heat is conducted from the plate to the food before you take it out.

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    9 months ago

    The plate is a black hole and the food is a white hole. Thanks for joining my TED talk.

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    9 months ago

    Personally I’ve found it’s quite dependent on the plate color it’s actually the reason why all my mugs are black. Red and white really like to exsorbe the microwaves