u/DeadThrone10 - originally fromr/GenZhou
Well since the sub didn’t allow free speech and banned everyone who disagrees, as a free speech absolutist, I am happy it got taken down.
u/ReasoningCucumber - originally fromr/GenZhou
I actually agree with you in this isolated scenario. The hivemind in that sub is rather insane lol. You won’t get banned for disagreeing, but you will certainly get downvoted to hell. I’m speak from experience here
My issue lies more with the fact that the level of “punishment” for restricting free speech is not equal
Subreddit A says x, and bans people who disagree
Subreddit B says y, and bans people who disagree
For some reason, A recieved a harsher punishment than B. The reason for this certainly isn’t because “Free speech happened”. It was a sarcastic remark
u/DeadThrone10 - originally fromr/GenZhou
No further arguments from my side, I think you are completely right and I agree with you.
I am a liberal myself and I have no doubt a lot of liberal subreddits do the same to people who disagree, I find it equally cowardice.
u/paco926 - originally fromr/GenZhou
Well there’s a lot of currently existing restrictions on what you can and can’t publish in media in China. The ministry of culture has restrictions on things that “disrupt the social order” and “threatening national unity”. People who are openly critical of government policies have had fines placed on them and sometimes jail times too.
u/california_sugar - originally fromr/GenZhou
Okay. What kind of sources do you have on that? Where did you learn that? What insights do you have into those cases? I know plenty of people in China who can protest and critique the government.
u/paco926 - originally fromr/GenZhou
I’m going to be honest with you, I don’t have any sources specifically out of China. Most of my information comes from groups like Amnesty International. I tend to trust what they say since they’re all over the world, generally unbiased, and report accurately on the abuses going on in the US, Latin America, Israel, etc.
If you have anything that says otherwise please share.
u/Uyghur-Justice - originally fromr/GenZhou
Well then next time stop pretending and preaching about western freeze peach and demonizing everyone else for lack of freeze peach.
u/ReasoningCucumber - originally from r/GenZhouFree speech happened
u/Weerdouu - originally from r/GenZhouMuh freedum
u/sic_66 - originally from r/GenZhou❄🍑🚫
u/Davros-123 - originally from r/GenZhouDIFFERENT OPINION DETECTED ENGAGE FREE SPEACH
u/TheBlaudrache - originally from r/GenZhouironic
u/TheBlaudrache - originally from r/GenZhouIt’s not free speech of you only express how much you hate something
u/Marshymellowyellow - originally from r/GenZhouLol free speech is only guaranteed by the government, not on private websites lmao
u/AreTeeTrash - originally from r/GenZhouTankies gonna tank and lie no matter what
u/DeadThrone10 - originally from r/GenZhouWell since the sub didn’t allow free speech and banned everyone who disagrees, as a free speech absolutist, I am happy it got taken down.
u/ReasoningCucumber - originally from r/GenZhouI actually agree with you in this isolated scenario. The hivemind in that sub is rather insane lol. You won’t get banned for disagreeing, but you will certainly get downvoted to hell. I’m speak from experience here
My issue lies more with the fact that the level of “punishment” for restricting free speech is not equal
Subreddit A says x, and bans people who disagree
Subreddit B says y, and bans people who disagree
For some reason, A recieved a harsher punishment than B. The reason for this certainly isn’t because “Free speech happened”. It was a sarcastic remark
u/DeadThrone10 - originally from r/GenZhouNo further arguments from my side, I think you are completely right and I agree with you. I am a liberal myself and I have no doubt a lot of liberal subreddits do the same to people who disagree, I find it equally cowardice.
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u/california_sugar - originally from r/GenZhouWhat restrictions does China have on free speech
u/paco926 - originally from r/GenZhouAren’t you like not allowed to challenge the government openly? This isn’t a secret or anything.
u/california_sugar - originally from r/GenZhouWhat are you talking about
u/paco926 - originally from r/GenZhouWell there’s a lot of currently existing restrictions on what you can and can’t publish in media in China. The ministry of culture has restrictions on things that “disrupt the social order” and “threatening national unity”. People who are openly critical of government policies have had fines placed on them and sometimes jail times too.
u/california_sugar - originally from r/GenZhouOkay. What kind of sources do you have on that? Where did you learn that? What insights do you have into those cases? I know plenty of people in China who can protest and critique the government.
u/paco926 - originally from r/GenZhouI’m going to be honest with you, I don’t have any sources specifically out of China. Most of my information comes from groups like Amnesty International. I tend to trust what they say since they’re all over the world, generally unbiased, and report accurately on the abuses going on in the US, Latin America, Israel, etc.
If you have anything that says otherwise please share.
u/california_sugar - originally from r/GenZhouWhat do your sources that aren’t Chinese say?
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u/california_sugar - originally from r/GenZhouAre they not able to emigrate? It is not illegal to leave China and move elsewhere.
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u/4evaronin - originally from r/GenZhouLMAO, an actual live specimen of a Chinese lib. Just f–k off with your lame AF attempts at sarcasm.
u/ATRUECOMMUNIST - originally from r/GenZhouU cringy asl
u/Dear-Baker3177 - originally from r/GenZhouYou literally can’t do that plus what do I have to find on of the 5% of people who don’t approve of their government and also want to emigrate
u/4evaronin - originally from r/GenZhouOh, don’t worry. Uncle Gordan Chang here can introduce you to “some of the Chinese people [he knows].”
u/Uyghur-Justice - originally from r/GenZhouWell then next time stop pretending and preaching about western freeze peach and demonizing everyone else for lack of freeze peach.
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