u/ROMEROoscar - originally from r/GenZhou
As a US citizen it seems more and more every day that the time is now to join a Party.

I must admit though my uninformed view of being in a party is basically “go to zoom meeting, tweet out pamphlet the graphic’s team created, go to education meeting, join the biannual street demonstration, repeat”

What has your experience been? Has the practical application of theory lead to deeper understanding?

Archive.org Links:

Jmlsky on Why Marxists Should Be in a Party: http://web.archive.org/web/20220306190039/https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZhou/comments/t7hwl4/what_is_being_in_a_party_like/hzhtvg5/

Jmlsky on Party Structure: http://web.archive.org/web/20220306193233/https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZhou/comments/t7hwl4/what_is_being_in_a_party_like/hzhx27u/

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    u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
    Absolutely. Any real marxist, who fully understood marxism should be in a party, period.

    And if there’s no proper party, then your duty as a marxist, and I mean it, your duty is to work to create one. One step after another, but still.

    Marxism take its full depth the moment you begin to apply it. I can’t even begin to explain it because I don’t want to spend hours, but for real marxism take all its sens only when you begin to use it.

    Marxism can’t and isn’t made solely for analysing things, it is made for the working class and the progressist element of a country to organize in order to fight back the ruling class in the class struggle, in order to change the social order. Ofc, to do so, analysing phenomenon is needed, but even this analysis shouldn’t be devoid of its end-mean, which is to take action.

    As Marx said, it’s time for philosopher to begin to change the world. And this is probably my main issu with nowadays “marxist” in América who use Marxism as an identity.

    Also, party life is just so fucking awesome man, for real. I dig it, I wouldn’t trade it for anything in the worlds, I love my comrades and my work in the party. It is so enriching, intellectually and humanly speaking.

    For a bit of background, I’m French, so we do have a long communist and révolutionary tradition and culture compared to the US, but I am not in PCF and I myself work for rebuilding a proper marxiste-léniniste party “from scratch”. I have rebuild my town section, and I am the secretary of my chapter, which cover two department, so over a millions person, and after 2 years+ (for me) of hardwork we are finally a real political force that people knows, and it feels great, especially because I am putting myself in my town’s communist legacy path and I am proud to pay such a tribute to those who came before me too.

    I am about to leave the party tho, because of massive disagreement with the new leadership and others problem, but even then, we will continu our work.

    If you have any question, feel free to ask me comrade. If you want I can give you the concret basis of a proper party and how it work and what it does.

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      u/ROMEROoscar - originally from r/GenZhou
      Comrade thank you from the bottom of my heart. I’m going to fix my life and join a Party.

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        u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
        You are very much welcome.

        One warning tho, if you are serious, be prepared to indeed “fix” your life. You will find yourself not doing 90% of what you were previously doing in your freetime, no more wanking around, doing party everyday or drinking and smoking all day long and shit (if this is what you were doing ofc). The party life truly is uncompatible with our current neoliberal era’s “lifestyle”, and if you ask me, it’s very good. It’s time for communist to be responsible historical actors, and it ain’t compatible with the nihilistic void and emptyness that our era propose to the youth.

        Goodluck in your endeavour comrade, may you find good minded and hardworking comrades o7

        And as I said, if you ever have question, feel free to ask me anything, PM anything you will have question or remark about, i’ll be glad to be of any help possible.

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          u/Sir-Kerwin - originally from r/GenZhou
          Could you give some examples as to what you do when engaging in party activities?

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            u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
            Ok I give you first half January as an exemple.

            We went to a protest against a EU and NATO "event’ in my town, organized by the Movement for Peace and others orgs, so we prépared a phamplet, we wrote it ourselves, printed it, then tracted it on market and in uni.

            We posted the phamplet on our media also, and we contacted the people who organized the protest to join the list of org that took part in the joint déclaration against EU and NATO.

            Then we went to the protest and we diffused our tract to everyone there. The whole idea was to push for a better criticism of EU and NATO, not just the kinda consensual position that was promoted. We criticised capitalism, French impérialism etc etc. For the record, of all org that were there, CGT were the best.

            In total, we diffused 1k tract about this event, and we organized our participation veeery fast and in a short timespan.

            This was in the first week of January.

            Then the second week we had a popular education event, we diffused for free a movie one night, in presence of the film maker, and after thé diffusion, we organized a debate.

            Here again, same thing, in addition to organize the diffusion itself (renting a municipal room, technical aspect such as projection, sound, microphones, or welcoming thé director…, which was already hard given the Covid restrictions), we once again had to produce the phamplet, print it, organising its diffusion on market, at factory door, in uni, etc etc, and so to planificate all this. We also organized press conference, and we had the two main newspaper local correspondant that came and made two good paper for promoting our event. One of the correspondant was very interested in the topic so it was good for us.

            Another important aspect is the cost of all this, we had to organize a way to pay the movie, cost for the film maker to come, renting the room, printing flyers, etc etc. We organized a small “shop” (More like a table really) in the room so we could sell some related content to people such as book, document we printed, etc.

            This night was succesfull, we had a little bit less than 40 people, which is honestly a lot given the topic and the covid, and also given our size and the size of the town. Even théâtre didn’t gather that much people, many time. Especially we had youth and this is unvaluably good.

            Have in mind that everytime, we had many reunion before, to decide all this and planify. We wrote the tracts, send to everyone for approval or criticism, corrected things, etc. For instance, in the phamplet about UE and shit, I asked to add the massacre of Odessa’s syndicalist of 2014, which we did. And as the OrgSec, I went to print the phamplet, and I organized tracting session. It was intense ngl, we had the press conference, then 4 days of tracting, some time twice a day, and then the diffusion night, so it was almost a full week of work non-stop.

            This is mostly town section stuff btw.

            I only give you the first half only because it’s already a lot of writting, and tbh, we had many other shit done, truth is that we got in trouble with the party leadership and we’re now being sued and shit so I would rather not expand too much about our activity. Have in mind that our PropSec post everyday on our blog and manage social network, we call each other almost everyday, and have a secrétariat a week, etc etc. Also this is not our regular activity, which consist more in tracting in factory door, uni and market, and sticking posters in the street, and this in all our territory, and in addition to this kind of activity.

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    u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
    I write another comment for visibility purpose, but here’s how we structure our local chapter based on the traditionnal marxist leninist organisation.

    There’s the Bureau of the chapter which is composed of 4 people :

    • The Secrétaire, who’s job is to coordinate.

    • Propaganda Secrétaire, who’s job consiste in dealing with communication

    • Organisation Secrétaire, who’s job consiste in organizing the party’s life and its action

    • The accountant, who’s job is to deal with money and funding.

    This Bureau is elected in and by the GA, general assembly, which gather all party member regularly (summoning it is Sec/OrgSec job) and is where most of decision are taken collectively. This GA give mandate to the Bureau but is also here for general political decision, that’s where democracy is. The Bureau isn’t all powerful and have to “rendre des comptes”, to do what the GA give him mandate to do, and when there’s big decision to be made, it shall be decided in the GA, and the Bureau role is also to organize the GA in order for it to be able to decide properly (order of the day, introductory/political rapport, sending all needed element beforehand to all members, etc…)

    The Bureau elect itself a secrétariat, which gather more often than the Bureau and who’s task is to deal with mundain affairs and to keep track of ongoing tasks. Two or three member of the Bureau are part of the secrétariat.

    In addition to this, I recommend you to have an association, to organize popular éducation event, and à blog or à newspaper, to diffuse propaganda. That’s the bare minimum.

    Edit: omg I forgot the principal !!! The principe is to have section, towns section, one per town if possible, and then company cells in every town, cells in big company, factory if possible. Each of them have the same structure everytime (Bureau+GA) and the principle of a local chapter is to be a federation of town section (made of every section of every town of a department/région, and every town section is made of every company cells of this town gathered too). So it goes like that:

    Departmental chapter>Town section>Company cells

    Everytime, repeat the structuration, there’s OrgSec/PropSec etc. (So a Bureau+GA) of X town section or of X company cell. And the local chapter is the federation of all town section, and a town section is the federation of all company cells of a town.

    All those town sections and company cells shall strive to have their own association and newspaper if they can too by the way.

    And that’s it, that’s the basis of a local chapter.

    Coming to the agenda, here’s how we’re doing:

    • Once per month, the Bureau gather to manage affairs.

    • The month after, it’s General Assembly, which the last month Bureau has organized and summoned.

    • Once per week, it’s secrétariat.

    All this burocracy is needed to manage everything, from production of propaganda, to organizing action (strike, protest, election, tracting phamplet, organizing popular éducation session, sticking posters on walls, etc…), and most importantly, to organize democracy. The whole point is the following :

    We debate collectively, we decide collectively, and we act/apply the décision collectively.

    I know I will sound biased, because I’m a SecOrg myself, but it is the most crucial post if you ask me. Without a proper OrgSec job, everything’s go to shit very quickly. In France, a lot of General Secretary of the PCF were SecOrg before becoming SecGen, and there’s no wonder why.

    This is the basis of a local chapter, not of the party, there’s much more to cover if you want the organigram of the party, and also have in mind that I learnt all this from one of the best human I have met, an old militant that teach me everything I know, and who has 50years of party membership, and moreover who learnt himself from old party member from the time when PCF was Marxist-Leninist and à proper class party.

    This is communism, all those organisational strata and structure are some of the roots of communism that need to be produced by socialists. This is the roots of socialism that need to grow under capitalism, just like how capitalism grew under the feodal era. It can’t be avoid no matter what, this is why I spoke about your duty as a marxist, which is to be a communist, a proper party member, to do the job, to create and organize these things, for when time come, the working class will have all this under its hand to fight the bourgeoisie.

    You could have more role in the Bureau if need be, but this triptic “GenSec-OrgSec-PropSec” is the nuclear core that everyone can set up in his town to begin to work on marxist-leninist principles. This is the trio that was used by communist during Nazi occupation of France, and it is effective as fuck.

    Also, sorry if this is not the proper terminology, I guess there’s English words for secrétaire and secrétariat but I don’t know it.

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      u/ROMEROoscar - originally from r/GenZhou
      The english words are secretary and secretariat, very similar to the French words so no problem understanding!

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        u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
        Ok good to know famille, thank you. Sorry I forgot one crucial element of the structure, so I edited it ! It explain the concept of a local chapter (to be a federation of town section, which are themselves a federation of company cells), everytime with the same structuration than a chapter (Bureau+GA)

        Anyway I stop here, have a good week-end, kisses comrade.

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      u/1notis - originally from r/GenZhou
      Thank you for the very in-depth response! One question though, what party are you a member of? Because I suspect that things might be different for different parties.

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        u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
        Wait the result of the arbitration commission and I may tell you, until then I would rather not.

        Hint, it’s not a trotskist nor a maoist party but a ML one 😉

        Also no, things aren’t that much different for différents parties. Sure, since bolchevism is “revigorated jacobinism”, the name or the strata will take the structure or name of differents national-state structuration, in France we have the territorial organisation Commune-Departement-State which is specific, maybe it’s Town-County-Region or idk, but the principle are the same. There’s also always the same structure in the party, aka a CC, a Bureau/Politbureau, or a national/general secretary, etc etc. The name can differs but the concept are always the same, it’s the basis of democracy in Democratic Centralism, without all these strata there’s no democracy possible.

        That’s why I can read a North Korean Party Congress (which can be called National Conférence or whatever other name that comrades will fancy elsewhere) and understand many things that would look vacuous for a non party member. You know, it’s all the jargon, oftenly with numbers and very long title. It make actual sens for me despite the name difference.

        I am not saying that I understand the WPK just like a Korean, I’m saying there’s some universal organisational principle that you will find in every marxiste-léniniste party, such as a général secretary, a “head” of the Bureau, and so a Bureau, etc etc.

        As for this structuration I wrote here, it is not the one of my party, it is the one of the PCF when it was in the third internationale and after, when it was still the great PCF. I’m speaking about the post-bolshevisation PCF, Thorez one and after.

        Of course there will be difference in name, or how the articulations between the strata is organized due to the difference between countries, etc. But there is no way to not have company cells, or town section, or territorial chapter, etc. There’s no way to not split those three role (org, prop & coordination) or to not make one scale a gathering of all scale composing it, one way or another, or to not have things akin to a GA. Those are the principle Lénin and the bolcheviks took from the jacobin to organize themselves, it is de facto part of leninism. Also in this description I am refering to the local chapter, the unit that consist in the basis of the party, so that’s where there gonna be the more diversity.

        And this is not only for my local chapter, this is how the whole PCF was structured. Back then, even company cells managed their newspaper comrade, no joke I have some old newspaper in the party library of divers cells, even things such as fishers, or dock workers one, or mettalurgy workers one, etc etc. The same concept could even be applied to a newspaper btw, as it has been done by Lénin himself, ofc with differents structure but the idea were the same.

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    u/Arch_Null - originally from r/GenZhou
    Its a lot more fulfilling than being an online commje.

    You can actually see the fruits of your labor come to life. Talking to the people in the streets and hearing their problems. Them being receptive toward our ideas. Its great.

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    u/afghanboy1100 - originally from r/GenZhou
    From one American to another in the heart of the imperial core, join the CPUSA. I have my disagreements with them, but they are the only communist organization in the nation with international ties. They are in the international meeting of communist and workers parties. The same cannot he said of PSL. My advice to you comrade is to join the CPUSA or PSL. Anything else is a splinter or a liberal organization. CPUSA and PSL are the only organizing doing principled communist work.