u/ROMEROoscar - originally from r/GenZhou
As a US citizen it seems more and more every day that the time is now to join a Party.

I must admit though my uninformed view of being in a party is basically “go to zoom meeting, tweet out pamphlet the graphic’s team created, go to education meeting, join the biannual street demonstration, repeat”

What has your experience been? Has the practical application of theory lead to deeper understanding?

Archive.org Links:

Jmlsky on Why Marxists Should Be in a Party: http://web.archive.org/web/20220306190039/https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZhou/comments/t7hwl4/what_is_being_in_a_party_like/hzhtvg5/

Jmlsky on Party Structure: http://web.archive.org/web/20220306193233/https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZhou/comments/t7hwl4/what_is_being_in_a_party_like/hzhx27u/

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    u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
    I write another comment for visibility purpose, but here’s how we structure our local chapter based on the traditionnal marxist leninist organisation.

    There’s the Bureau of the chapter which is composed of 4 people :

    • The Secrétaire, who’s job is to coordinate.

    • Propaganda Secrétaire, who’s job consiste in dealing with communication

    • Organisation Secrétaire, who’s job consiste in organizing the party’s life and its action

    • The accountant, who’s job is to deal with money and funding.

    This Bureau is elected in and by the GA, general assembly, which gather all party member regularly (summoning it is Sec/OrgSec job) and is where most of decision are taken collectively. This GA give mandate to the Bureau but is also here for general political decision, that’s where democracy is. The Bureau isn’t all powerful and have to “rendre des comptes”, to do what the GA give him mandate to do, and when there’s big decision to be made, it shall be decided in the GA, and the Bureau role is also to organize the GA in order for it to be able to decide properly (order of the day, introductory/political rapport, sending all needed element beforehand to all members, etc…)

    The Bureau elect itself a secrétariat, which gather more often than the Bureau and who’s task is to deal with mundain affairs and to keep track of ongoing tasks. Two or three member of the Bureau are part of the secrétariat.

    In addition to this, I recommend you to have an association, to organize popular éducation event, and à blog or à newspaper, to diffuse propaganda. That’s the bare minimum.

    Edit: omg I forgot the principal !!! The principe is to have section, towns section, one per town if possible, and then company cells in every town, cells in big company, factory if possible. Each of them have the same structure everytime (Bureau+GA) and the principle of a local chapter is to be a federation of town section (made of every section of every town of a department/région, and every town section is made of every company cells of this town gathered too). So it goes like that:

    Departmental chapter>Town section>Company cells

    Everytime, repeat the structuration, there’s OrgSec/PropSec etc. (So a Bureau+GA) of X town section or of X company cell. And the local chapter is the federation of all town section, and a town section is the federation of all company cells of a town.

    All those town sections and company cells shall strive to have their own association and newspaper if they can too by the way.

    And that’s it, that’s the basis of a local chapter.

    Coming to the agenda, here’s how we’re doing:

    • Once per month, the Bureau gather to manage affairs.

    • The month after, it’s General Assembly, which the last month Bureau has organized and summoned.

    • Once per week, it’s secrétariat.

    All this burocracy is needed to manage everything, from production of propaganda, to organizing action (strike, protest, election, tracting phamplet, organizing popular éducation session, sticking posters on walls, etc…), and most importantly, to organize democracy. The whole point is the following :

    We debate collectively, we decide collectively, and we act/apply the décision collectively.

    I know I will sound biased, because I’m a SecOrg myself, but it is the most crucial post if you ask me. Without a proper OrgSec job, everything’s go to shit very quickly. In France, a lot of General Secretary of the PCF were SecOrg before becoming SecGen, and there’s no wonder why.

    This is the basis of a local chapter, not of the party, there’s much more to cover if you want the organigram of the party, and also have in mind that I learnt all this from one of the best human I have met, an old militant that teach me everything I know, and who has 50years of party membership, and moreover who learnt himself from old party member from the time when PCF was Marxist-Leninist and à proper class party.

    This is communism, all those organisational strata and structure are some of the roots of communism that need to be produced by socialists. This is the roots of socialism that need to grow under capitalism, just like how capitalism grew under the feodal era. It can’t be avoid no matter what, this is why I spoke about your duty as a marxist, which is to be a communist, a proper party member, to do the job, to create and organize these things, for when time come, the working class will have all this under its hand to fight the bourgeoisie.

    You could have more role in the Bureau if need be, but this triptic “GenSec-OrgSec-PropSec” is the nuclear core that everyone can set up in his town to begin to work on marxist-leninist principles. This is the trio that was used by communist during Nazi occupation of France, and it is effective as fuck.

    Also, sorry if this is not the proper terminology, I guess there’s English words for secrétaire and secrétariat but I don’t know it.

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      u/ROMEROoscar - originally from r/GenZhou
      The english words are secretary and secretariat, very similar to the French words so no problem understanding!

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        u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
        Ok good to know famille, thank you. Sorry I forgot one crucial element of the structure, so I edited it ! It explain the concept of a local chapter (to be a federation of town section, which are themselves a federation of company cells), everytime with the same structuration than a chapter (Bureau+GA)

        Anyway I stop here, have a good week-end, kisses comrade.

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      u/1notis - originally from r/GenZhou
      Thank you for the very in-depth response! One question though, what party are you a member of? Because I suspect that things might be different for different parties.

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        u/Jmlsky - originally from r/GenZhou
        Wait the result of the arbitration commission and I may tell you, until then I would rather not.

        Hint, it’s not a trotskist nor a maoist party but a ML one 😉

        Also no, things aren’t that much different for différents parties. Sure, since bolchevism is “revigorated jacobinism”, the name or the strata will take the structure or name of differents national-state structuration, in France we have the territorial organisation Commune-Departement-State which is specific, maybe it’s Town-County-Region or idk, but the principle are the same. There’s also always the same structure in the party, aka a CC, a Bureau/Politbureau, or a national/general secretary, etc etc. The name can differs but the concept are always the same, it’s the basis of democracy in Democratic Centralism, without all these strata there’s no democracy possible.

        That’s why I can read a North Korean Party Congress (which can be called National Conférence or whatever other name that comrades will fancy elsewhere) and understand many things that would look vacuous for a non party member. You know, it’s all the jargon, oftenly with numbers and very long title. It make actual sens for me despite the name difference.

        I am not saying that I understand the WPK just like a Korean, I’m saying there’s some universal organisational principle that you will find in every marxiste-léniniste party, such as a général secretary, a “head” of the Bureau, and so a Bureau, etc etc.

        As for this structuration I wrote here, it is not the one of my party, it is the one of the PCF when it was in the third internationale and after, when it was still the great PCF. I’m speaking about the post-bolshevisation PCF, Thorez one and after.

        Of course there will be difference in name, or how the articulations between the strata is organized due to the difference between countries, etc. But there is no way to not have company cells, or town section, or territorial chapter, etc. There’s no way to not split those three role (org, prop & coordination) or to not make one scale a gathering of all scale composing it, one way or another, or to not have things akin to a GA. Those are the principle Lénin and the bolcheviks took from the jacobin to organize themselves, it is de facto part of leninism. Also in this description I am refering to the local chapter, the unit that consist in the basis of the party, so that’s where there gonna be the more diversity.

        And this is not only for my local chapter, this is how the whole PCF was structured. Back then, even company cells managed their newspaper comrade, no joke I have some old newspaper in the party library of divers cells, even things such as fishers, or dock workers one, or mettalurgy workers one, etc etc. The same concept could even be applied to a newspaper btw, as it has been done by Lénin himself, ofc with differents structure but the idea were the same.