The Southern States of America have some of the most beautiful landscapes and climates this country has to offer. It also harbors some of the worst people and culture this country has to offer.

Having traveled all over the US, being to every state other than Hawaii and having lived in a total of seven, four of them being Southern States, I’ve had the chance to see what the country is like, it’s various cultures and the people that make up those cultures, and have a developed a strong opinion from my experiences.

That opinion: Fuck the South.

I vividly remember moving from a North Western state to a southern state as a child and experiencing the utter culture shock from the move.

In the NW, I was welcomed for who I was. In the South, I was not.

In the NW, I was able to be who I wanted to be. In the South, I had to be like them.

In the NW, you were judged by your character. In the south, you were judged by the cost and size of your material items.

This is not Red vs Blue States. This is the South vs the rest of the United States.

The utter amount of corruption in Southern governments from the Governors offices’ down to the local police departments is both appalling, but extremely apparent if you just stopped to actually take a look.

There’s a massive amount of suffering from those in poverty in Southern States because of the rugged individualism in the culture and the utter lack of empathy towards those they do not know. As long as they get theirs, that’s all they care about. In the Southern Culture, the mentality is not “we’re in this together”, it’s “not my problem if it doesn’t affect me”.

The South = “Me, Myself, and I” and always has been. Disagree? Then how else can you explain their history if not for their own selfish reasons?

Everyone’s main focus is themselves and their immediate family/friends. Everyone else just exists (barely) and if their existence is worse than the Southerners, then that’s their problem and the southerner will not lose any sleep over it.

The South’s education is abysmal.

During my time of puberty I was living in southern states.

I had no idea what sexual intercourse was or how it was performed until I was 14 because my health classes sex education was “abstinence only”.

I learned by watching pornography.

I didn’t know about the female reproductive system or how it worked until I was 16 when my girlfriend told me about it. When we talked about sexual intercourse and the reproductive systems of both men and women, we talked about solely about STDs and how losing your virginity causes you to lose a part of yourself (this was an actual lesson in the sixth grade, I shit you not. My teacher also talked about how pornography created Ted Bundy. Again, I shit you not).

It’s not at all surprising that teen pregnancies ravage southern states. How could it not? They purposely keep teenagers in the dark as a form of control. And if a teenager breaks out of that control and gets pregnant, then their punishment is to have the child and be a teenaged parent. But this isn’t surprising. The culture of the south has always been about controlling others. They literally betrayed and fought against the United States because of it. And even after they lost, they still could not accept losing control. The KKK was formed, Jim Crow laws established, and they repealed the rights of their fellow Americans. And this mentality still affects Southern Culture to this day with their weaponization of religion and identity politics. (Did you know the Department of Justice was created just to fight the KKK because they were such a big fucking problem?)

Southern culture is also a very cruel and hateful one. (I know! That seems ridiculous to think! But is it when compared to the rest of American Values?)

“What about Southern hospitality?” You may ask.

This is true. The South is known for being polite.

But being polite is not the same as being kind.

Politeness is the social norm of the south, but kindness is not.

Southerners only take kindness at face value. It’s not done out of the kindness of the heart, it is done out of egotism and the need to feel morally superior than those around them. Hence, they’re polite. Not kind.

In my experience, the southerner is the first to judge, but the last to take any criticism.

I could go on and on with little intricate criticisms like the priority of athletics over education (SEC is absolute proof of this), or how you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a picture of a village in a developing nation and small town in rural Mississippi, but I don’t want to be here writing all night.

Obviously the world is not black and white. I know not every southerner is a bad person. I know you can’t put everyone in a singular box as every person is different. But when it comes to defining the culture of the American South, it is an utter embarrassment of the United States and against what our forefathers wanted the country to represent. Freedom and Tolerance of others (Benjamin Franklin actively pushed for the tolerance of other religions in the US. Would the average Southerner do that?)

Our biggest mistake as a country was not completing the Reconstruction of the American South. It is because of this failure you still see confederate flags on the back of their trucks and monuments of traitors in the center of their towns. And now the democracy of the United States is at risk because of it.

Fuck. The. South.

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    I lived in Chicago, in rural Michigan, Ohio, SoCal, and Idaho before ending up in the rural south.

    If you think that the north doesn’t have exactly the same problems as the south, then you aren’t getting out of any of the cities. Neo-nazis and neo-confederates have an enormous presence in Oregon and Washington state once you’re outside of Spokane, Portland, and Seattle. Far-right conservatives entirely control Idaho. The only reason that Illinois isn’t far-right is because of Chicago itself; outside of Chicago, the state turns pretty red.

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      The PNW has a very specific history with this, in the case of Oregon going back to how the state was founded, but it’s nowhere near as entrenched as in the south and most rural people up here have zero interest in such things.

      Also you are incorrect that it’s strictly rural. At least in the case of Portland, in spite of our reputation in the rest of the country, there’s always been a relatively visible fascist fringe.

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        I went to school with a black woman from Oregon; she experienced a lot of shit, and she was in a pretty affluent suburb. So no, not strictly rural. But also not a strictly southern thing either.

        I think that it’s reasonable to say that if you aren’t white, cis- het-, and at least Christian-adjacent, you’re likely not going to have a great time in most ofthe US.

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        Fair enough, but the overt racism, homophobia, et al. are more often a rural v. sub/urban issue. OTOH, sex ed. is very definitely a state level issue, but that still stems from the rural/urban divide. E.g., Texas is so fucking gerrymandered that rural areas–which are deeply socially regressive–are able to entirely control the state, despite places like Houston, DFW, Austin, and San Antonio being the population centers and being more broadly liberal, which in turn allows them to set educational policy that is based in nonsense.

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      Yeah, I was gonna say, OP has never lived somewhere like Atlanta. The South works like this: 1st world cities nested in 3rd world states nested in a 1st world country.

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        100% this, lived in Atlanta and Seattle, the biggest difference within the cites are food quality, traffic saturations, and level of comfort with casual conversation. And driving 2 hours east from Seattle feels REALLY similar to driving 2 hours west from Atlanta

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            Seattle has fresher seafood so if you’re cooking it it might be better. Otherwise the Atlanta food scene demolishes Seattles

            Edit: I’d be remiss to not admit that Seattle has a lot of great Southeast and South Asian food

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      I have done a couple of road trips that make me disagree with this. Yes I didn’t live a long time in these places but in every Southern small town I felt judged and at every small town elsewhere that vibe just was not there.

      You can’t wave this away. It’s there.

      This does not mean that there aren’t awful people and ideas everywhere. What’s being discussed here is that deep in the culture, being hateful of differences is baked into almost everyone. The South has no monopoly on it exactly, but the difference is certainly there and noticeable

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        I guarantee you that if you are an openly trans person, you’re going to have a bad time in rural Michigan or rural Ohio. You’re probably going to have store security following you around if you’re not white and you’re trying to buy groceries in Kalispell, MT.

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            Uh. You might be able to confuse Ohio as being close to the south, but Michigan? That’s solidly Yankee territory, several hundred miles north of the Mason-Dixon line.