Both Republican and Democratic senators emphasize that any successor to Kevin McCarthy will inherit the divided government that befell him — with another shutdown looming.

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    House republicans are running their party like they have all three chambers, and a huge majority. In reality, they’ve only got 4 seats that they can afford to lose in the only chamber that they control. To pass a bill means doing it with Denocratic support (from the Senate and Executive).

    They’re going to need to pick someone that basically all Republicans can agree on, so it’s not going to be one of the most extreme ones.

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      Not like they did much legislating when they had all 3. They just stuffed the supreme court which has had a worse effect.

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      No, they’re running the government like it only gets in the way, and aim to drown it in the bathtub, just like Uncle Grover wants.

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    Somewhat off-topic, but I thought this quote from the article was particularly interesting:

    “Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said he has only one piece of advice for House Republicans in picking a new speaker: “I hope whoever the next speaker is gets rid of the motion to vacate. I think it makes the speaker’s job impossible, and the American people expect us to have a functioning government.””

    Funny you should mention that, Mitch, because people have been saying the exact same thing about the filibuster for years now.

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    "The American people expect us to govern,” said Sen. John Kennedy, R-La. “I’d also advise all of my House colleagues to be sure to take your meds.”

    Can’t wait to see that one on poster board behind Jamie Raskin at the next impeachment theater event.

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    More Conservative then Kevin “everything Republicans do is the Democrat’s fault” McCarthy? What’s more Conservative than that?

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    I don’t think the next time will take 15 rounds of voting, but there’s going to be a long while before the first vote. I also think that neither Scalise or Jordan (who is my guess) can rely on any votes from the democrats. It would be fun watching the GOP implode further if the stakes weren’t so high.

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      I agree I don’t think it’ll go to a vote until it’s completely a lock. Hopefully Gaetz will have another temper tantrum and be an even bigger embarrassment.

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    Obviously, they need to fins someone who has bipartisan support. By this, I mean 2/3 of the House parties (Democrat, Republican, MAGA.)

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      Never going to happen.

      The MAGA party is now all about “Never admit fault. Always blame others. Compromise is weakness. Losing is not acceptable.”.

      These people got into office because their voters want the crazy. They want the Jewish Space Lasers and the Beetlejuice hand jobs and Hunter Biden’s dick pics. Any attempt to work with “normal” Republicans or Democrats! is unacceptable and grounds for expulsion, and these people would be putting their seats at risk to a primary challenger even crazier and dumber than they are.

      Similarly, the “mainstream” Republicans feel the same way. Kevin McCarthy just said himself that the GOP knows they’re supposed to be working with Democrats but they literally don’t want to because they think that since they have the majority, they should just be able to do whatever they want. And it’s been that way for decades now. See the Hastert rule as a prime example. Or McConnell’s mantra where anything and everything the Democrats do must be opposed by default, even if the idea was originally a Republican idea that Democrats support. A Republican being willing to side with Hakeem Jeffries or even willing to negotiate with Democrats to elect a more moderate Republican would be political suicide for a lot of these people.

      And there’s no possible way a Democrat is voting for either a Republican or a MAGA nut. Even if the candidate were to make all sorts of promises, there’s no way for the Democrats to actually enforce those promises once they become speaker because the GOP has the majority, and they have absolutely no issues with going back on their word.

      Which means this is going to be one hell of a wild ride. Given our current political climate, I cannot see how any viable candidate has a path to 218, nor do I see any one of the 3 sides being willing to back down.

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      But will they? Seems like the maga group want one that’s frothing and screaming.

      You Will Respect My Authoritah!

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        The question isn’t will MAGA support Republicans, its will Republicans support Democrats or MAGA

        I think we know the answer

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      But who? Former speaker John boener? I just can’t think of someone that Republicans AND Democrats could openly support. Speaker election is 50% + 1

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The eight Republicans who voted to boot McCarthy complained that he relied on Democrats to keep the government open and failed to advance their conservative policy priorities.

    But any new Republican speaker will inherit the divided government that befell the last one, as fears grow about how to prevent a shutdown on Nov. 17, approve new aid to Ukraine and advance other must-pass bills to keep agencies functioning.

    McCarthy spent his nine months as speaker dancing on a knife edge of functionality and paralysis, constantly struggling to balance the demands of his aggressive right flank and the necessity of dealing with a Senate and a White House run by Democrats.

    Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said the eight rebels who ousted McCarthy, as well as others in the House GOP, should remember who controls the rest of the government.

    In an interview Thursday, Jordan, who has a long history as a right-wing firebrand, was noncommittal on the motion-to-vacate rule and downplayed the prospects of further U.S. aid to Ukraine without a clear sense of the endgame for defeating Russia.

    Asked what they could do that McCarthy couldn’t, Gaetz said they’d pass the Republican appropriations bills that include a host of spending cuts and conservative policy provisions.


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