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    I think this is the photo of a buffalo genocide done so that the natives couldn’t rely on them as a food source, and thus forcing them into starvation or submission…

    Jesus fucking Christ, yeah showing them that photo sure will own one of them. Just not in the way you think it would. What a piece of shit.

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      I was gonna say I’m going to go out on a limb here and say the vegan would probably lly be against the systematic slaughter of an entire species.

      Not sure how this is supposed to be an own, but then again that makes it on par with all the other dunks on vegans I see.

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      No, the vegans. See the preachy vegans preach to everyone within reach. The chad native is tired of the virgin soyboys preaching to him about their culture and how they should eat. The vegan is bewildered because he cannot disagree with a minority and had assumed he would side with him. Dazed and confused the vegan wanders off while the creator of the meme regales in the contradiction that confounded the vegan but he had seen coming a mile away.

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        i’ve been racking my brain trying to figure out what the point is and i THINK it’s that white vegans shouldn’t criticize indigenous people because white people have done worse to these animals? or that indigenous people need buffalo meat? i really don’t know it’s such a dumb post

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            I think it’s saying white people telling indigenous people how to live is touchy and to not be weird and racist about it

            That image was also used in a class that taught us about how white people systematically destroyed a specific indigenous way of life that relied on following or at least relying on the migratory patterns of buffalo.

            That society had a much better grasp of living in harmony with nature (not destroying the biosphere) so white vegans today are arguing from a bad position when whites arguably destroyed a much better way of life than veganism under capitalism.

            While it doesn’t come up as often as carnists would claim opportunistically, white vegans are still white and should defer to POC vegans and at least be highly cognizant of their privileges when criticizing non-white people (especially considering carnism is higher among whites than non-whites). Especially considering white people are chiefly responsible for culturally exporting carnism as a power signifier to begin with.

            I have talked to plenty of white vegans that being vegan does not give one permission to be racist, nullify their privileges, or grant them moral license to be domineering or wield their privilege when talking to non-white communities, they should be on their best behavior as an ally and conciliatory the same way queer whites should not be domineering when entering non-white spaces, including cishet non-white spaces.

            Being vegan is being vegan.

            It can compliment but it is not a substitute for becoming anti-racist. Moral license becomes a conductor for suppressed racialized hatred. Communists are not immune.

    • I think this is the photo of a buffalo genocide done so that the natives couldn’t rely on them as a food source, and thus forcing them into starvation or submission…

      Oh my God… You just made me realize that that’s what this was for. I’ve seen these pictures in text books when I was a kid, and uncritically accepted the explanation that it was ‘pioneers found an easy food source and some thought it was funny to shoot an animal that didn’t have the sense to run away…’.

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        Hence why it’s called a genocide against the native people, a deliberate destruction of a specific people’s primary food source is defined as a genocidal act. I went to pretty ‘progressive’ schools in the US and it was still mostly framed as a “oh, we fought them a bit but they kinda just got sick and died, it wasn’t like a lot of people were trying to eradicate them.”

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    Okay so to see if I’m tracking this right…

    1800s white people killed all of the buffalo they could to eliminate a vital food source of the indigenous peoples of the great plains region. Because buffalo were a more important food source to the natives than the settlers, this basically means that the natives actually killed them. This means that indigenous people killed a lot of buffalo to eat food, Ergo, veganism is bad. Or maybe it’s actually the natives who are bad actually

    Am I following this right?

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    Yeah the people who systematically killed all the buffalo were definitely vegans. That is the veganest thing you could possibly do.

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    whenever you see a white vegan argue with a native

    Imma stop you right there, cause I need to clarify. Are we talking about a native-native or a warren-medusa?

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    Coming across this Tweet on Twitter made me realize Twitter had switched me back to the “For You” tab instead of the timeline 🤦‍♂️