• ZILtoid1991@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    One problem: most smokers start as teens, all while it’s forbidden to sell kids the cancer sticks.

    Addition: I would punish the selling of tobbaco products to kids even more, including the ability of suing the adults for damages in the future (If it won’t cause a cobra problem later on), and also give the ability to non-smoking workers to sue their employers if they give smokers more breaks.

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      9 months ago

      My 13-year-old daughter already has friends who vape. That’s how insidious it is and how deeply embedded in the public consciousness nicotine-based products are.

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      Yeah, but then ultimately it becomes illegal for everyone to own them. Meaning shops cant sell them.

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      Teens usually get cigarettes from people who are ~18-21. If the age raised higher than that their main supplier goes away

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, honestly I think it would make more sense to increase the age at which it’s legal to sell to 25 (under the justification that supposedly that’s when your brain has finished developing), and then allow it from there on to prevent it becoming a way to support illegal activity.

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          9 months ago

          It worked where I live. Smoking age was raised to 21 and teen cigarette use started declining even faster

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            9 months ago

            My first cigarette at the ripe old age of 13 was illegally imported. I very much doubt it worked where you live and in reality teens just went more underground with their smoking.

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      9 months ago

      I think New Zealand implemented a similar measure some years back, it should probably be good to see how well it works there. Hopefully this doesn’t create a black market for tobacco.

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        9 months ago

        Yes we did. Have not heard anything about it since… so it’s probably working as intended.

        We’re currently freaking out about vape shops springing up every ten feet.

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          My first cig was illegally imported and sold by a dealer involved with gangs. All its done is make people get tobacco from their dealer rather than the guy outside the shop.

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      And where does teens get the idea to smoke from? Is it from grandpa that coughs louder than a jet engine? Or is it the older cooler teens who got the idea from older teens, who got the…

      You get the point.

      I smoked as a teen because some of my friends did, they smoked because some of their friends did. And you don’t have to look very far to find the 18-20 year olds who provided them.

      Luckily, I never smoked much and mostly kept it to social smoking which made it very easy for me to quit once I grew up and developed some brain-cells that enjoyed co-operating with eachother.

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      Yeah but the 18 year old buys for the 15 year old-- brothers, sisters, upperclassmen, etc.

      The more that gap becomes larger, the less likely they have social interaction and access. How many 40 year olds buy for 15 year olds today? In 20 something years, 40 year olds will be the youngest purchasers.

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      9 months ago

      also give the ability to non-smoking workers to sue their employers if they give smokers more breaks.

      Yeah, one of the best bits of WFH is that I can take as many breaks as my nicotine obsessed colleagues.