President Joe Biden is arguing that “there is something dangerous happening in America” as he revives his warnings that Donald Trump and his allies represent an existential threat to the country’s democratic institutions.
“There is an extremist movement that does not share the basic beliefs of our democracy. The MAGA movement,” Biden says in excerpts of the speech Thursday in Arizona, released in advance by the White House, referring Trump’s Make America Great Again slogan.
Although voting in the 2024 Republican primary doesn’t begin for months, Biden’s focus reflects Trump’s status as the undisputed frontrunner for his party’s nomination despite facing four indictments, two of them related to his attempts to overturn Biden’s victory in the 2020 election.
I don’t expect anything from Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden.
But what he could do is use his unparalleled ability to communicate with the public to rally antifascist and progressive forces into direct action against the MAGA movement. Rather than just waiting until the next game of voteball, a united front could stand up and break up the fascists before they became a problem in the first place.
You. mean the thing he literally did?
No? He told us to play voteball. That’s it.
Ah, you’re one of those people who think voting doesn’t change anything. Got it.
okay seriously prove your point. how has voting for these people changed anything
didn’t trump lose the popular vote?
did we vote to bail out the banks in 08 but leave us all to die?
did we vote for the shitty covid response both candidates gave?
the presidents are all basically the same fucking thing policy wise.
I believe you’re the one with the point- that point being people should be murdered. So why aren’t you murdering anyone?
Okay even taking your weird ranting seriously a second, do you think I just want to go on some shooting spree or you’re doing a meme
You’re the one who said people should be murdered.
Well voting isn’t going to actually get rid of these people. They’ll still be here after the election no matter who wins.
Getting rid of them requires other action.
Oh, I see. You want to start murdering people. Go ahead and start. I’m sure the rest of us will be right behind you.
Only the ones that deserve it of course. We’re not monsters. Probably won’t need virtue signaling “liberals” (daily reminder that there are no leftists in power) or the fascist cult member dickheads that call themselves conservatives regardless though.
no you won’t be, because your the type to enable the fascist losers you pretend to hate. Get lost.
So when are you going to start the murdering? What are you waiting for?
when are you going to protect me like you pretend to be when you vote in this ‘democracy’
and where the hell did you get that I just want to do some aimless murder spree of everyone ever, that doesn’t make sense! What are you talking about?
I said no such thing!
My enemies deserve the chance to be rehabilitated in work camps - so really what we need is to make the election irrelevant if you know what I mean.
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Oh, hey, how about that - didn’t expect to see an r/Iowa refugee over here. Welcome to the greener pastures that are generally just as painfully, unthinkingly liberal but far less cancerous.
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Do you expect the president to encourage vigilantism? That’s an… interesting line of thought.
I literally said I don’t expect him to do anything.
I’m just saying, there are options he won’t take.
And I’m saying it’s a good thing he won’t take those options.
Sometimes there’s no choice.
Nobody wants to encourage vigilantism, so if thats the only option you can provide then you don’t have any options either.
The enemy is encouraging vigilantism and insurrection. Keep fighting with one hand tied behind your back, see what happens.
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We should be punishing the people encouraging vigilantism, not encouraging more of it.
That requires active engagement in one’s community beyond vote-shaming and whining on social media - you’re not going to see much of this from either party.
Actual community involvement is hard. let’s go joe, blue no matter who, if you don’t vote blue you enable fascists etc. is easy and still lets them feel good about doing something… even if it’s ultimately ineffective.
I think they especially hate people who vote third party or conscientiously abstain from electoralism because they know, deep down, that none of that shit really matters.
And if voting doesn’t really matter, they have to face the truth - they have done absolutely nothing at all