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You know, it is a running joke that Google keeps killing their products within a few years or so after release. but with all seriousness, it makes me not trust any product they release because I have no idea if it’ll even be around a year later.
Dear Google, stop trying to make YT Music happen. It’s not going to happen.
Just downloaded AntennaPod
I happen to use YT Music despite it sucking because I already pay for YouTube premium, and it seemed dumb to pay for Spotify or Tidal instead. Plus I hated what Spotify was doing by trying to combine music and podcasts into a single app. So naturally, a few years later Google is combining music and podcasts into a single app.
A few years ago, before Google introduced YouTube music, they had the Google Play Music app that let you listen to their entire catalog, download/cache the songs beforehand, listen to your own audio files on local storage (including .flac files), and subscribe and listen to Podcasts.
Literally was one of my most used apps until YouTube Music happened and they had less features for double the price.
Yep Google Play Music was literally perfect. It was incredible. And now it’s gone I have to use Spotify and the world’s most backwards fucking ‘add to queue’ logic. Get fucked Spotify. Best of a bad bunch.
@greyjedi @GamingChairModel Google Podcasts is being killed off and everything moved to YouTube Music. I won’t be moving with it.
@rwaddilove @greyjedi @GamingChairModel don’t worry, #AntennaPod is waiting for you!
@joel @greyjedi @GamingChairModel AntennaPod seems a good alternative. Now if I could just find the Export option in Google Podcasts…
@rwaddilove @greyjedi @GamingChairModel good news (for Google), you’re stuck!
@rwaddilove @greyjedi @GamingChairModel you’ll have to wait for their export tool, maybe on Google Takeout? Or add them all by hand
+1 for AntennaPod, has tons of options but also gets out of your way if all you want to do is find and listen to podcasts.
I can’t see Google ever adding in all the options people want in a podcast app into YouTube Music, it’s just never going to happen.
I would expect they’ll probably use it to try and switch you over to the video version (if it exists) since it’s going to have the more expensive ads (I assume the video ads are more lucrative anyways), which isn’t overall a bad thing, but also not really a good one either.
Idk… it has the best selection of music, it’s the only reason why I switched.
GP Music wasn’t too bad. I wish Apple would bring an iTunes client to Android, or at least if there were a decent comparable product (that supports streaming+purchasing music as I actually prefer to buy the songs I like).
Locking people into the streaming model is lame
I use Bandcamp, which does allow you to stream purchases, though I prefer to download the flac files and stream via Jellyfin
Just use VLC or Plexamp.
Not looking for a player, I’m looking for a store
Ah, misread.
Do people generally like having their podcasts and music on the same app? I never understood why so many music apps added podcasts.
Easy, more user analytics.
They added podcasts because it is comparatively cheap (they don’t have to pay the record labels any royalties).
I do. It helps to have it all in one place. Also since I’m paying for Spotify, I’m glad I’m not paying for another separate podcast service, and it feels like I get my money’s worth. Probably listen to a good 3-4 hours of podcasts per week and another 20-30 hours of music. If I was JUST doing podcasts, I’d probably use another service but it’s nice to have it all in one place that behaves the same for me in the car.
Why would you pay for a podcast service?
There are a bunch of podcast client apps that are free to use, some are open source, and they are utilizing indices such as podcastindex.org to give you access to podcasts.
I see what you’re saying. If for some reason podcasts became untenable on Spotify or inconvenient for me I would probably look more into a service like that. As it is though, my 2-3 hours per week are fine on Spotify. Good to know there are other options out there though.
Because there is a lot of shared stuff… so it’s cheap to be added to the app, that’s why.
That has absolutely nothing to do with it, its about more user analytics to cash in on.
Man Google is on a roll, one of the few of their apps I kept after de-googling in the last few months from most things, now I can add this to an alternative. Thanks G!
You could try AntennaPod, I really like it and it’s open source.
I use it too and I find it perfect. Most music players also have a podcast feature. I used to use pocketcasts but they decided to update (ruin) the interface and I’m still mad about it.
Killed by Google
I know it’s not really important but I prefer the design of the Podcasts app (Material You). YouTube Music is always completely black and clashes with the design of every other app made by Google. 🤷♂️
Youtube music is trash!! The black background looks terrible. Stopped listening to music since the switch, my entire library was migrated and then removed by youtube music.
This is stupid (as usual). I use the podcast app and when it will be turned off guess what i will use instead? Any other app instead of YouTube Music!!! Why? Because F**k Google!!! That’s why! I swear, it’s like they are deliberately trying to push me away from all their services. First Chrome, then Google search, and now podcast too. I’m already looking at some decent Gmail alternative.
‘Podcast Addict’ is an amazing alternative.
And these Google actions are what cause me to #degoogle my life, finding alternatives for every Google thing I use. Damn you Google, don’t be like that…
Absolutely second podcast addict, it’s what I use for my podcasts and downloaded audio books
Podcast Republic is an awesome podcast app. When Stitcher became cumbersome that’s what I switched to years ago. I feel even better having made the switch now that Stitcher has been absorbed.
k-9 for Gmail account there’s also protonmail, tutanota and posteo.de
even thunderbird works
Am I totally crazy or did the word “podcast” come directly from the Apple proprietary product name “iPod?” You know, their old music players?
If so it’s weird to see an Apple-specific term spread so far and wide. They usually stay within the walled garden.
You are correct that the term “podcast” derives from the iPod, but interestingly the term predates Apple’s addition of podcasting features to the iPod and the iTunes software.
Weird! How were they consumed before they were added to iTunes or the iPod? I should know this but I don’t recall.
We had RSS feeds that would auto download the latest episode, then you could copy it to your ipod
I’m amazed that took off but I guess that’s 2023 me talking
In 2003, there were very few websites where what you saw depended on your login information. For the most part, the entire web was a bunch of stateless pages where what you saw at a URL was what I saw at the same URL. There was no real opportunity for interaction with sites in the browser (anything like that required a browser plugin to run java applets or flash/shockwave content).
RSS was such a game changer in that it really did change the way people consumed content. I could load a blog and it would only show me the posts I hadn’t already read, instead of naively showing me the whole thing. Suddenly there were states, and things could be marked as read or unread.
And when someone realized how to combine RSS with actual audio or video media, that was the first real semblance of “on demand” content where anyone could press play on current, timely content at their own schedule. DVRs had basically just been invented, and cable on demand content wasn’t widespread yet. YouTube didn’t exist, and the best place on the internet to watch a trailer for an upcoming movie was apple.com, where they used movie trailers to try to persuade people to download QuickTime to play those videos.
So yeah, automating a download to your computer to automate pushing content to your iPod was a huge step forward, and basically sold itself.
Client side scripts for automatically downloading episodes published through RSS, and then copying it to your iTunes library, where it would update your iPod the next time you connected it to your computer. This was long before mobile internet so iPods could only be updated by plugging into a computer with iTunes installed.
You would sync them to your iPod like any other audio. You download the podcast, put it in your iTunes library and when you plugged in your iPod it would transfer everything over.
Remembering back before iCloud sync and plugging in your iPhone to iTunes and thinking it synced but then realising the playback position never synced and you had to manually find your way in every single podcast again
The first podcast was Christopher Lydon’s Radio Open Source. The term podcast was created to describe it. It’s still going strong. If you like ideas, books, music, vaguely leftish politics you might like it.
It has nothing to do with open source software.
I assumed that had been killed years ago.
At this point I can’t even say I’m surprised that Google did this anymore.
Didn’t even know this was a thing.
