Everything about Warren and the white labor aristocratic women who worship her is just so bizarre.
Edit: Like…faking Native American ancestry to get a job at Harvard alone should have immediately disqualified her from basically everything, but we live in a settler colonial hellscape, so the only consequence for her was some humiliation from a handful of fascists. Her supporters probably still assume that this unbelievable racism on her part is just a conspiracy invented by Trump. But then she started her campaign with a fucking DNA test, which has nothing to do with being indigenous (as far as I understand it as a settler). It just goes on and on with these people, one disaster after another, and we haven’t even gotten to tattooing numbers on their fucking forearms. How could they possibly think that was okay? Did none of them stop and wonder about this…?
I had lib friends that would do this native American thing. Their parents would lie or maybe have been lied to and say they had a lot of Cherokee in them. So these libs will make it part of their identity until the 23 and me results come in and they realize they’re not that native after all. They take these identities on and off like they were fucking hats. Like, if a full blooded native American came up to me, said he was my dad, gave me all the documents to prove it, and it turned out I was over half Cherokee it wouldn’t make me native American, that’s just not my lived experience. If you think DNA factors into it you may as well break out the calipers and starting measuring your skull to see of you’re allowed to celebrate Kwanzaa.
A lot of white people are actually that stupid, because especially Southerners spent years starting in the 19th century claiming they had “Cherokee royalty” in their ancestry. It was some weird shit where they wanted to claim a genealogical connection to the land, and they figured that chiefly/noble/royal blood would sort of cancel out the inherent inferiority of its non-whiteness. A strange artifact of the times, when people still took royal bloodlines so seriously I guess it could overpower their racist little minds?
So tons of white people have had their grandparents spouting off stupid shit their grandparents told them
My understanding is that a lot of the “Cherokee blood” mythical ancestors for us whites were actually black, and for whatever racist reason it was more acceptable to say you had a Cherokee ancestor than a black one.
I believe it’s also related to the same brain worms that led to the US naming all their attack helicopters after certain native tribes: these kinds of chuds always chose the “warlike” or “warrior” tribes (said with heavy air quotes here) as their “distant ancestry”, because toughness or something
I think also that being white in America you kindnof have no culture, which is depressing, so white people are constantly trying to find some excuse to have anything more going on with them and their bloodline than just “assorted crackers”.
Unfortunately many native tribes have been pulled into the blood quantum bs too, it’s not just settlers. One of my closest friends grew up on the res, speaks her tribes language , and looks native and even holds tribal membership, but because her dad was white, she was heavily ostracized.
On the opposite side of the spectrum, my half brothers are 1/4 native alaskan, from their dad, but they get treated like family by all the full blooded members of their tribe, even though they’re white as hell, and live in a white city multiple states away. They get free healthcare for life, and when their grandparents and dad die, they’ll get payments for the rest of their lives from the state of Alaska.
I kinda went off topic here, but I hate discussions of blood quantum entirely. Like you say, indigenieity (indigenous-ness? Idk…) is cultural more than anything. Some cultures have integrated the racism of the settlers into their culture though, and it only hurts themselves.
A very racist caricature, like I almost think it should be spoilered. Im not surprised a warren supporter failed to notice it though and then posted herself to the entire world in front of it
They’re like the lamest and most toxic kind of Disney Adult. Only Buttigieg/Harris supporters are stranger to me, and maybe Andrew Yang’s if he still has them.
Andrew Yang has never been a mystery IMO; from what I saw he attracted the futorology-wormbrained techbros, roughly the same circle as the main target for crypto grifts
Her making such a big deal out of the DNA test just showed how much of a joke it was. Blood quantum is pretty controversial among American tribes because colonial subjugation and assimilation has pretty much made DNA tests useless for determining how indigenous someone is. For example, a decent number of escaped black slaves joined up with the tribes in the 1700s-1800s. Some of their descendants aren’t indigenous by blood at all, they may take a test and find out that they are 100 percent African descent. But if your family has spent multiple generations living on the reservation, they shouldn’t be denied membership because the white people running BIA decide they’re not indigenous enough.
This goes the other way around as well. There are black people that don’t have a lick of African ancestry. Not as common as the other way around, but I’ve met people like this. They still identify as a black family. Their family has been living the lives of black Americans, unaware of their indigenous and hispanic ancestry for generations until a couple years ago with the rise of 23andme type tests. Race is real, but it really is widely a social construct. I don’t think it’s reasonable to say my friend’s family isn’t black when they have been living as black people among other black people for generations.
I say all this to say that Elizabeth Warren could have come back with test results that prove that she’s indigenous and it really wouldn’t matter. Her and her family have lived as white people for generations. When it comes to modern American indigenous identities, DNA really doesn’t mean shit
When you phrase it that way, it is curious that the only Warren supporters I’ve ever met were white labor aristocratic women. My friend’s wife who works at Eli fucking Lilly of all places used to bag on me incessantly for not supporting her over Bernie. She was ironically very bought into the whole Bernie Bros stuff.
On the flip side, that’s more Native ancestry than Filipinos have European ancestry (and tons of people both white and Filipino keep associating them with being mixed with Spanish)
Not tryna excuse anything though, just pointing out brainworms in other areas of geneology
Everything about Warren and the white labor aristocratic women who worship her is just so bizarre.
Edit: Like…faking Native American ancestry to get a job at Harvard alone should have immediately disqualified her from basically everything, but we live in a settler colonial hellscape, so the only consequence for her was some humiliation from a handful of fascists. Her supporters probably still assume that this unbelievable racism on her part is just a conspiracy invented by Trump. But then she started her campaign with a fucking DNA test, which has nothing to do with being indigenous (as far as I understand it as a settler). It just goes on and on with these people, one disaster after another, and we haven’t even gotten to tattooing numbers on their fucking forearms. How could they possibly think that was okay? Did none of them stop and wonder about this…?
I had lib friends that would do this native American thing. Their parents would lie or maybe have been lied to and say they had a lot of Cherokee in them. So these libs will make it part of their identity until the 23 and me results come in and they realize they’re not that native after all. They take these identities on and off like they were fucking hats. Like, if a full blooded native American came up to me, said he was my dad, gave me all the documents to prove it, and it turned out I was over half Cherokee it wouldn’t make me native American, that’s just not my lived experience. If you think DNA factors into it you may as well break out the calipers and starting measuring your skull to see of you’re allowed to celebrate Kwanzaa.
A lot of white people are actually that stupid, because especially Southerners spent years starting in the 19th century claiming they had “Cherokee royalty” in their ancestry. It was some weird shit where they wanted to claim a genealogical connection to the land, and they figured that chiefly/noble/royal blood would sort of cancel out the inherent inferiority of its non-whiteness. A strange artifact of the times, when people still took royal bloodlines so seriously I guess it could overpower their racist little minds?
So tons of white people have had their grandparents spouting off stupid shit their grandparents told them
My understanding is that a lot of the “Cherokee blood” mythical ancestors for us whites were actually black, and for whatever racist reason it was more acceptable to say you had a Cherokee ancestor than a black one.
I think it was because there were some Cherokee slave owners, historically
I believe it’s also related to the same brain worms that led to the US naming all their attack helicopters after certain native tribes: these kinds of chuds always chose the “warlike” or “warrior” tribes (said with heavy air quotes here) as their “distant ancestry”, because toughness or something
I think also that being white in America you kindnof have no culture, which is depressing, so white people are constantly trying to find some excuse to have anything more going on with them and their bloodline than just “assorted crackers”.
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Unfortunately many native tribes have been pulled into the blood quantum bs too, it’s not just settlers. One of my closest friends grew up on the res, speaks her tribes language , and looks native and even holds tribal membership, but because her dad was white, she was heavily ostracized.
On the opposite side of the spectrum, my half brothers are 1/4 native alaskan, from their dad, but they get treated like family by all the full blooded members of their tribe, even though they’re white as hell, and live in a white city multiple states away. They get free healthcare for life, and when their grandparents and dad die, they’ll get payments for the rest of their lives from the state of Alaska.
I kinda went off topic here, but I hate discussions of blood quantum entirely. Like you say, indigenieity (indigenous-ness? Idk…) is cultural more than anything. Some cultures have integrated the racism of the settlers into their culture though, and it only hurts themselves.
The picture with “blood and teeth” tattoo has a caricature of an indigenous American in the background.
A very racist caricature, like I almost think it should be spoilered. Im not surprised a warren supporter failed to notice it though and then posted herself to the entire world in front of it
just this morning I saw a Tesla SUV with two bumper stickers: don’t mess with Texas women (don’t live in Texas), and one of those classic WARREN blues
This is my second traffic related post today. What up my fellow americans
Only marginally related but I saw an RFK ‘24 bumper sticker this morning 🤡 🔫
Not much, went to the gym on my lunch break and am now eating lunch at my desk on company time
Uh oh sounds like one of us has broken containment
Oh no, you encountered the Officer wife. Like the troop wife but
They’re like the lamest and most toxic kind of Disney Adult. Only Buttigieg/Harris supporters are stranger to me, and maybe Andrew Yang’s if he still has them.
Andrew Yang has never been a mystery IMO; from what I saw he attracted the futorology-wormbrained techbros, roughly the same circle as the main target for crypto grifts
Her making such a big deal out of the DNA test just showed how much of a joke it was. Blood quantum is pretty controversial among American tribes because colonial subjugation and assimilation has pretty much made DNA tests useless for determining how indigenous someone is. For example, a decent number of escaped black slaves joined up with the tribes in the 1700s-1800s. Some of their descendants aren’t indigenous by blood at all, they may take a test and find out that they are 100 percent African descent. But if your family has spent multiple generations living on the reservation, they shouldn’t be denied membership because the white people running BIA decide they’re not indigenous enough.
This goes the other way around as well. There are black people that don’t have a lick of African ancestry. Not as common as the other way around, but I’ve met people like this. They still identify as a black family. Their family has been living the lives of black Americans, unaware of their indigenous and hispanic ancestry for generations until a couple years ago with the rise of 23andme type tests. Race is real, but it really is widely a social construct. I don’t think it’s reasonable to say my friend’s family isn’t black when they have been living as black people among other black people for generations.
I say all this to say that Elizabeth Warren could have come back with test results that prove that she’s indigenous and it really wouldn’t matter. Her and her family have lived as white people for generations. When it comes to modern American indigenous identities, DNA really doesn’t mean shit
When you phrase it that way, it is curious that the only Warren supporters I’ve ever met were white labor aristocratic women. My friend’s wife who works at Eli fucking Lilly of all places used to bag on me incessantly for not supporting her over Bernie. She was ironically very bought into the whole Bernie Bros stuff.
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And this is what the reaction was. Her supporters held up the DNA results as if they were vindication.
On the flip side, that’s more Native ancestry than Filipinos have European ancestry (and tons of people both white and Filipino keep associating them with being mixed with Spanish)
Not tryna excuse anything though, just pointing out brainworms in other areas of geneology