• oldGregg@lemm.ee
    2057·
    1 year ago

    Lemmy before i installed connect:

    us politics us politics us politics

    Lemmy after i filtered politics using connect:

    Comments removed about there being politics…

    Cant win

      • Iron Lynx@lemmy.world
        444·
        1 year ago

        Not entirely correct.

        It’s obsessive hatred of car dependency. It’s not that surprisingly many of us hate cars, it’s that surprisingly many of us hate that you necessarily need a car to do anything outside of the house.

        • MrLuemasG@lemmy.world
          112·
          1 year ago

          Nooo, I ended up having to filter the fuckcars community because they were angry at ANYBODY that uses a car for any reason - like top voted comments and posts. I saw somebody get jumped by multiple responders for bringing up how there are small towns and people that live hours away from large cities that would still need cars for transportation

          Like, I’m as much for improving public transit and reducing the amount of cars on the road in every instance where it’s viable. I specifically moved within 10 miles of my job so I could start riding my bike to work instead of driving my hybrid car. It’s not that I’m pro car, I’m just anti-extremist

          • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
            111·
            1 year ago

            I’ve gotten into it with a couple of guys for needing a truck. I’m a construction electrician. That means that in addition to lugging my tools around, I have to transport rather large and heavy pieces of equipment/gear on occasion. I’d happily rock a van, but it’s hell trying to find a 4x4 van (snow) at a reasonable price due to the van life crowd. I’ve had guys say use public transport or car share, like dude, I work 6 days a week, that isn’t viable. It’s a completely one sided conversation with them.

            • MrLuemasG@lemmy.world
              31·
              1 year ago

              My favorite response was somebody saying small towns in America should still have infrastructure and trains to connect them (which I agree with in theory) because every small town in the UK has them without even realizing there are small towns in the US that could fit the entirety of the UK between them and the nearest other town or city.

              • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
                2·
                1 year ago

                Lol nevermind that many of those towns/villages in the UK are centuries old, while many of the smaller towns (especially out west) sprang up specifically because of the national highway system, and also many have died with the introduction of the interstate highway system. I’m all for improving our national rail lines, but it would need to be implemented carefully to ensure that no more smaller towns die out due to lack of service. And to your last point, this is where specifically a high speed rail system would excel, if only just to efficiently cover the vast distances between US towns.

        • Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works
          22·
          1 year ago

          See the issue here is that a lot of these Reddit activists, they start out with a good cause that a lot of people could be sympathetic towards but they end up taking it too far because they’re all terminally online extremists.

          Here’s a few examples:

          Veganism: A lot of people are on board with treating animals better and eating more plants, but Redditors take it too far by advocating for the complete ban of meat and the prosecution of places like homeless shelters for providing turkeys on thanksgiving because that’s genocide to them.

          Cars: A lot people would agree that we should decrease dependency on cars because they’re loud, they pollute, and they’re dangerous, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to ban all cars with no exceptions even if the exception is for parents with disabled kids.

          Atheism: A lot of people would consider the possibility of there being no God and that religions deserve criticism, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to force all religious people to convert to atheism… or else.

          Work reform: A lot of people support the idea of having stronger work protections and better wages, but Redditors take it too far by either by being full blown tankies or by rejecting the idea of work all together, regardless of how delusional and impractical that is.

          Feminism: Most people believe that women should have equal rights and treatment in society, but Redditors take it too far by being full blown misandrists who want to oppress all men and “liberate” women from them.

          Not to mention how with every one of these types of communities you always have the classic “you’re either with us or against us” mentality. Every disagreement makes a you a nazi/altright/bigot, their cause is totally comparable to the struggle against nazi Germany and the holocaust, and they are totally the good guys who have the total support of the general public (especially the young people) and that they’re just a minor enemy (read: cartoon villain) away from achieving utopia.

          The communities on here are just an extension of those, and they bring with them the same type of toxic idiots to this platform.

      • Reunite2987@rqd2.net
        231·
        1 year ago

        linux users are of course the first to move to something like this, and the /r/fuckcars community is as well now a bit. also let’s be honest, fuck cars. and fuck windows.

          • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
            71·
            1 year ago

            If the VW Golf had a complete monopoly on the car market to the point where you had to spend years jumping through hoops just to be able to drive your Focus on the roads, despite the Golf being an extremely shitty car when taken on its own merits, you’d probably be pretty resentful to the people who enable that monopoly, too.

            • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
              1·
              1 year ago

              Lol Amazon comments are a league of their own. Half the questions are:
              Q) Does product do thing?
              A) I don’t know

            • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 year ago

              No, it sounds like people who are constantly being told that Linux is “too hard to use” compared to Windows speaking up when they see a blatant example of that not being true.

              • Letstakealook@lemm.ee
                2·
                1 year ago

                I think you just inadvertently called them morons, lol. In any case, I used Linux exclusively for about five years. It is more difficult for most users than windows. The majority of the time, with windows, you just plug shit in and it will work for you. On Linux, it requires you to research what MAY work for your hardware. Often times, if it does work, you are missing features for your hardware. For software, you generally have to look up programs that will do what you’d like, as most mainstream programs aren’t released for function with Linux. Additionally, most users are not familiar with our comfortable enough with using command line interfaces. You must be able to use command line as a Linux user. I haven’t used Linux in approximately a decade, so some things might have changed, but people won’t know that because the issues I pointed out were true for a long time. Most people aren’t savvy enough to use Linux and they don’t have the time/patience to learn it. Why this makes Linux users upset, I’ll never know, it’s all rather silly and unimportant.

          • stankmut@lemmy.worldEnglish
            61·
            1 year ago

            The ads thing is because you probably have a different idea of what an ad is then they do. Usually when they are talking about ads, it’s self-promotional stuff. Teams being built in, Onedrive asking to be setup, and especially Edge constantly begging you to give it a chance.

            There’s also that link to the Microsoft store for Candy Crush in the start menu of fresh installs of Windows 10. I imagine that’s what kicked off the whole ‘loaded with ads’ thing. That’s one anyone can agree on.

          • WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.comEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            It’s not an EU thing. As an American, the small popups that show EVERY NOW AND THEN are not that big of a deal. I use windows for work, mac for personal, and Linux for other things like my server and hobby projects. Linux has regularly given me the most trouble.

      • Olympus@feddit.uk
        103·
        1 year ago

        As a European, car loving Windows users I don’t think I’m accepted here tbh

    • Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Having never blocked any of these things… I get a mix of both. Along with the new latest internet drama, a few memes that may or may not apply to me, and some occasional lovely asses and boobs.

    • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
      44·
      1 year ago

      Welcome to the corporately controlled internet where marketing firms, public relations agencies and communications firms constantly try to manipulate the public discourse.

      If you use filters … you can actually hear and read what people want to talk about.

      • TommySalami@lemmy.world
        9·
        1 year ago

        Well, you can definitely narrow it down to what you want to read and talk about. I’m interested in doing that with politics (US), and I’m very far away from any kind of PR or marketing person. People can genuinely want to talk politics, it’s not always a corporate conspiracy.

        • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
          12·
          1 year ago

          The best kind of marketing is the type you are completely unaware of.

          The world runs on money … money is made by convincing people to give it to you … our modern world is built on convincing people … but people don’t like being convinced … so you have to convince them without letting them know they’ve been convinced.

          It’s not a corporate conspiracy … it’s just business.

  • drathvedro@lemm.ee
    6414·
    1 year ago

    I’m fine with USA politics, because they got their hands up in everyone’s asses so it affects everyone.

    What bothers me more is American football. Nobody except them even plays this game but it’s all over the news every time there’s a major event. Same for baseball.

  • saumanahaii@lemm.ee
    492·
    1 year ago

    I can’t wait for Lemmy to get big enough that I can unsub from all the big Lemmies. On Reddit I had a bunch of niche communities that were pretty nice and not political. Now all those spammers I avoided have come here too and the Lemmies aren’t big enough to avoid them yet.

      • saumanahaii@lemm.ee
        2·
        1 year ago

        I’d say that fixes the problem, but, uh, pretty sure it’ll just strangle the platform. Really the only thing I can think of is a few people bouying smaller subs with content. Some of the art Lemmies in the ‘imaginaryXYZ’ realm are a good example, with like one person posting content on basically all of them. It’s enough to make it worth subbing though.

        Also I love how a post about how I’m tired of all the politics turned into a political discussion. Like, I do agree with one of the sides, but that’s literally what we’re complaining about.

  • Polar@lemmy.ca
    5517·
    1 year ago

    Americans are really annoying. They ruin the internet with their ability to turn ANYTHING and EVERYTHING into American politics. Even if it’s about a cat on the opposite side of the world.

    My favourite is posting a comment and having someone say “you voted for Biden, didn’t you?”. Nah, bro, I stepped foot in your country once and was mugged at gun point. I will never be back, let alone a fucking citizen of that shit hole.

    • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml
      147·
      1 year ago

      Americans are interested in American politics. Next thing you’ll tell me is Europeans are interested in European politics. I never hear about Brexit…

      • Polar@lemmy.ca
        1310·
        1 year ago

        Whats your point?

        Americans bring their politics into everything. “Europeans” (such a generalization), bring their politics into posts that pertain to it.

        Americans being upset because Starfield has pronouns is annoying. You don’t really see “Europeans”, Canadians, Mexicans, etc. crying about it. Just citizens of the USA.

        • dukk@programming.dev
          82·
          1 year ago

          You had a point, but then you started blaming the Americans for everything. Yeah, Americans pretty much just forget that there exist tons of people on the internet who aren’t American, but that doesn’t mean that all Americans just bring politics into everything.

          Secondly, stop trying to blame others for things you have no idea who did. Sounds like you’ve got a similar problem to many Americans, where you’ll see some fair-right homophobic dude on the internet and think, “ugh, stupid Americans,”. Yeah, many Americans can be narrow-minded at times, but that doesn’t mean you project your opinion on that entire country.

        • SwampYankee@mander.xyz
          41·
          1 year ago

          Bro that one guy screaming about pronouns who inspired a new wojak literally has a British accent.

        • Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works
          31·
          1 year ago

          Based on my time on the internet, the region with the most annoying political users is Europe. They almost always fall under one of these four categories:

          1. Western Europeans with a superiority complex with the US

          2. Western Europeans with an inferiority complex with the US

          3. Eastern Europeans who want to ethnically cleanse each other (Serbia and Albania, Greece and Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey, Bosnia and Serbia, Poland and Belarus, Poland and Russia, Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine and Hungary, and the list goes on and on).

          4. Ultra racist tankies, islamists, or neo nazis who want to see the collapse of the EU, the eradication of immigrants, and “independence from US occupation”

          Per capita, they’re second to none in ignorance, arrogance, and sheer whininess. However, they tend to get drowned out by the sheer amount American users on any given platform.

      • YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca
        1·
        1 year ago

        That would be nice, especially if it were by a lake or ocean, but I’d have to hire someone to mow the lawn.

        • Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works
          21·
          1 year ago

          I would have a small section near the house that I would use as a typical backyard, but I would want the majority of the land to be like a mini nature preserve (whether it’s natural or engineered). Just chilling in your own slice of nature without the threat of government incompetence or corporate greed sounds great to me

    • Gestrid@lemmy.caEnglish
      71·
      1 year ago

      I’m assuming you mean presidential election. But there are some state and local elections coming up this year. In fact, today is National Voter Registration Day in the US. (There’s a specific day to remind people to register to vote or update their registration as needed.)

      • twopi@lemmy.ca
        2·
        1 year ago

        You guys have “National Voter Registration Day” but it’s not a public holiday? Wow! In Canada, we have same day voter registration and it helps a lot!

    • Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works
      21·
      1 year ago

      Oh God, I don’t even want to think about just how many attention removed posts are going to litter the front page.

      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
        112·
        1 year ago

        Veganism somehow became politically charged, although not as much as LGBTQ+ who literally get disowned by their own family.

          • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
            122·
            1 year ago

            Calling things like veganism and LGBT political is sad to me. Are we really saying people who don’t want to harm animals and people who believe all genders and sexual orientations should have the same rights are political? Politics should mean shit like taxes.

            • mayonaise_met@feddit.nl
              71·
              1 year ago

              That’s quite a narrow definition of politics. I’d say anything that humans do that is perceived by others to be part of a social structure that maintains or challenges social norms and power relations is political.

              Only if veganism itself becomes something nobody would challenge (like health is better than death, breathing is important) or if you are the last person on earth you can become the first apolitical vegan.

              • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                That’s what I’m saying. They shouldn’t be political issues. Everyone would hopefully agree. I’m not saying we shouldn’t call them political issues, I’m lamenting that they have become political issues.

              • Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works
                1·
                1 year ago

                The issue here is that you’re adding connotations to the term that aren’t there. Being vegan just simply means not consuming animal products. There’s no ideology attached to it. It’s not something that’s inherently political. People can be, and many are, vegan for health, religious, or personal reasons. You can’t claim your personal views on being vegan are the only ones. You don’t have exclusive ownership of the term. I personally don’t care how you feel about veganism, my point is that veganism is a lot more broad and apolitical than people like you, who tend to have myopic views, claim it to be.

    • b_n@sh.itjust.works
      9·
      1 year ago

      Ah, see that’s where I am going wrong. I don’t engage in any content, but I do code in Rust.

        • PeWu@lemmy.ml
          47·
          1 year ago

          Dude, I’m just tired of listening ramblings about something that doesn’t concern me.

          • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org
            114·
            1 year ago

            The problem is that politics affect nearly every person alive. If you stayed more informed you’d likely know that.

            The attitude that you’d rather check out because you’re not impacted not only indicates a position of privilege, it’s precisely what evil leaders want because it helps them enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else.

            • Polar@lemmy.ca
              21·
              1 year ago

              I don’t really care to hear Americans fight over Trump/Biden like children for 4 years. Oh wait, it’s been more than 4 years, and they are still removed about Trump.

              Doesn’t concern me. Hit me up when you’re actually discussing politics that matter.

  • ch3ck3rs@lemmy.world
    221·
    1 year ago

    Image 1 should just have a full frame impact font reading ‘linux’. Neither are ideal.

    • akulium@feddit.de
      3·
      1 year ago

      Both could be good if they were more strictly organized into communities or servers and the “all” feeds would lose importance… but unfortunately we are all just a bunch of shitposters and not the intellectuals we pretend to be