It suprises me that people are still on Twitter. https://joinmastodon.org/
At this point is just Musketeers and bots.
At this point, I fully believe the conspiracy theory that Elon Musk is just a scapegoat/shill who is intentinally destroying twitter because it was a good tool for people to organize against companies and governments.
Those are the motivations of his sponsors (the Saudis etc). He thought it contributed to his trans child’s “woke mind virus” and he definitely threatened to buy it out of rage and then once forced to decided he’d fucking destroy it
and to try and sell teslas to the right
I’ll buy that as a motivation, but I think he’s destroying it because he’s a petty removed who can’t handle that he was forced by the courts to do something, namely buy Twitter.
Those are the motivations of his sponsors (the Saudis etc). He thought it contributed to his trans child’s “woke mind virus” and he definitely threatened to buy it out of rage and then once forced to decided he’d fucking destroy it
My biggest problem with all the conspiracies is they don’t seem to account for his very obvious incompetence.
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Stop dead naming Ten.
the petty little shit this asswipe pulls is just fucking pathetic.
join Mastodon! : the commie twitter alternative. so much for X’s freedom of speech
Maybe it’s just me, but it feels like we are starting to see more direct actions between members of different classes.
Every action taken without repercussions emboldens their next.
It’s been awhile since the last feast, so the rich are losing their fear.
The article was updated to say it was an automated change because the profile pic changed and the blue check has sense been restored.
Tom Nicholas referred to Musk as the “World’s Oldest Teenager” and he’s not wrong.
I must say it is amusing watching the same people who cheered Twitter censorship the last few years suddenly realise why giving companies the power to sensor is a bad idea. Eventually the gun gets turned on you. Always resist censorship. Especially speech you disagree with. Free speech is useless unless you can say things which people disagree with.
- “Free speech” refers to the government, not private companies.
- There is some speech that has no place in the public square. Hate speech, threats, and harmful conspiracies, as examples.
You’re confusing the U.S. Constitution with free speech. The Constitution only protects some kinds of speech, and only for American citizens. I’m not American. Most people are not American. Surely you realise there are many others countries out there, and other kinds of speech?
You say “harmful” speech has no place in the public square. Who adjudicates that? Right now it’s Elon Musk. Are you really happy with that?
What government purchased X? Surely you’re mistaking that with a private entity purchasing it. No part of X is public, it is and has always been a private site with membership requirements.
Again, “free speech” doesn’t apply to what companies allow on their platforms.
I listed examples of harmful speech.
The constitution is there to protect us from the government. Other laws are there to protect us from each other.
The “censorship” from before Musk took over was mostly banning hate speech, death threats, and calls for violence. Sometimes all three were in the same tweet.
Now it’s banning union organizing and people wanting to be paid a fair wage for a day’s work. Totally the same.
Most people agree with censoring hate speech and death threats. The problem is they expanded well beyond that, all while people cheered. The chants of, “it’s a private company!” were deafening. So now they can lie in the bed they made.
Even before Musk, twitter amplified right-wing nonsense.
Now it’s openly full of Nazis, because Musk unbanned them.
But you’re right, it is a private company, and thus not subject to any definition of free speech.
Here’s the thing. People do have free speech and can publicly say that they think the new twitter is a Nazi fulled dumpster fire run by a racist man-baby who got rich off of an Apartheid era emerald mine.
Private companies moderating content != censorship.
And I think you have a wrapped few of how it went down.
Pre-musk moderation was a necessary evil to combat spam, fake news and hate speech. Nobody was cheering, except when some notorious idiots got the boot. Then we were just laughing at the idiots. Fine, call it cheering if you want.
Now, we are mostly just all laughing at Musk destroying his investment.
I don’t care if he censors the UAW or whatever. Go ahead and censor everyone except dogecoin evangelists.
And yeah, people can say stupid shit I disagree with. But I reserve the right to laugh.
I’m not going to hang out in a bar that allows Nazis to hang out. You can if you like, but people are going to call you a Nazi supporter, and they will be right. If you don’t allow Nazis in your bar, they can still stand outside and freeze peach as much as they want, you are not curtailing anyone’s freedom. So, yes, I cheer businesses that don’t allow Nazis and I am critical of businesses where the management trolls unions (and allows Nazis), and that’s not hypocritical in any way because there’s a difference between good things and bad things. Anyway, enjoy your Nazi bar, weirdo.
Always resist censorship.
Can I follow you around with a siren that I turn on every time you attempt to speak?
Using a siren to silence me is just another form of censorship.
Stopping someone from using a siren is just another form of censorship as well.
You telling me to silence my siren is censorship. I’m using it to voice my opinion.
I thought you said that you were against all forms of censorship.
Do you think it’s possible for a Twitter version of this drowning-out siren to exist? What would it look like?
I think exceptions need to be made for obvious propaganda, disinformation, gaslighting, and hate speech. Dangerous lies and calls for violence do not need a platform, that’s quite different from silencing people for merely having a different opinion.
I agree with the spirit of what you’re saying, but it seems too easy for those definitions to get spun off into just “things the majority dislikes” which isn’t great. I would hope that dangerous lies could be countered in the comments, and the platforms are then setup to always include this conversation rather than letting the first poster hog the megaphone
I used to believe the free marketplace of ideas worked this way, then the Trump years and the pandemic happened. It became clear to me that many people cannot and/or do not care to know the difference between evidence-based conclusions & obvious and dangerous lies, provided it supports their preexisting biases. Just look at the hostility many harbor for fact-checking.
“A lie will fly around the whole world while the truth is getting its boots on.”—Mark Twain, (possibly apocryphal quote but still relevant)
