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    Or they made good edited youtube videos and then they starting chasing the streaming trend like Critikal and other youtubers I used to watch. Sorry I want to watch a single 10-30 min video once or twice a week and not hours of unscripted rambling. The only person I can watch do that is Nothernlion but even then I don’t watch most of his content anyway.

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      hours of unscripted rambling

      i actually really enjoy long form interviews. i watch 5 hour interviews and want more, but not everyone can host them and only a certain kind of content is good long form.

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        I haven’t watched a streamer yet that could pull it off except NL. People get into this young with no education or lived life outside of streaming and honestly it’s a pain listening to them try to be relatable to talk about something for hours. Even NL starts getting tiring after the 5000th take on peloton.

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          Podcasters are usually better at this than streamers. There’s a Canadian political podcast I follow that’s great for hour-plus interviews. Really good for “politics in complete sentences” stuff.

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          I’m not sure what a “steamer” is. Is it video game related only?

          The content that I watch is for 40+. The example that I was thinking about was of Mormon stories podcast host. He has a phd in psychology. Hearing him interview ex Mormons is really interesting. I always learn something about myself during 5 hour interviews.

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            Streamers usually people who play games for 4-8+ hours almost every day with a face cam and a running chat. Twitch is the main website for these people.

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        LTT’s WAN show pulls of (maybe 2/3rds the time) 3-4 hour streams with only outlines of recent news and a live-feed of merch messages as direction.

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      Adam Ragusea is the worst for this.

      Title: interesting topic.

      Video: 3 hours of rambling with five minutes of addressing interesting topic.

      I could hardly stand his actual videos before but at least he experimented and showed some conventions to be useless traditions but recently it’s really been garbage long form rambling.

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        Stuff like this is why I love the new-ish feature in YouTube to see the most popular areas of a video. I can skip all the BS and jump right to the 30 seconds the title referenced. What would be even better is people not making hour long videos about nothing and making a title that makes it sound like 30 seconds of the video is the whole thing.

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    Shout out to EthosLab for doing the exact same format of content for ten years with minimal changes

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    YouTubers and streamers aren’t your friends. They are just trying to make money.

    If you could switch jobs and make double your salary, would you? What about all your coworkers you’d be letting down by suddenly quitting? Oh well. You’re getting paid.

    If you work in retail or fast food or something you probably don’t give a shit about your coworkers, but if you’ve worked a production job on a small team, you know what I mean. And you still would taken double the salary for the same sort of work.

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      From how I’ve heard some YouTubers talk after doing something like this and living with it for a while, I don’t think it’s quite the same. They generally start the channel with something they care about and enjoy, then based on feedback that can shift… in many cases to something they don’t actually enjoy and isn’t fulfilling, and after hitting a breaking point they make a drastic change back or simply quit. It may take longer to build an audience if they stick to what they like, but those people will be a more true audience and the person can make what they want to make instead of feeling like they need to put on a mask. It’s less about being loyal to the audience and more about being loyal to themselves.

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      I care about my audience but my YT is 10 years old with less than 200 subs, so clearly my strategy doesn’t work.

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    It was gamegrumps for me. It started too feel to corpoare and not just 2 dudes on a couch. Censoring swearing removing numbers in episodes so you dont even know which order it is.

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      I seriously do not understand how removing numbers was a good idea. That, more than anything, was when I practically stopped watching altogether.

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        Probably some weird AB testing where it was found people don’t like clicking on episode 107 of a long series because they don’t know if it’s something they need to start from the beginning of.

        I hate it though when yt channels do that because they often reference previous or even spoil stuff in previous and I’m like… I had no way of knowing this was ahead of that!

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    The King of Random comes to mind. When Grant started to go crazy with liquid nitrogen videos it just went downhill for us curious DIYers. The new hosts didn’t help at all and instead of showing creative and useful ideas and projects, it tuned into a TikTok style kiddies experiment churning machine.

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    Perun is a fantastic channel to keep up with the Ukraine war. Probably the best resource out there. Pleasant to listen to as well, guy deserves the appreciation he gets.

    Only because of the Ukraine channels did I notice that he also used to put out great videos about Dominions 5, a somewhat obscure game. I wish he had enough time to do both.

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    At this point I suspect half the internet is bots making content for the enjoyment of other bots.

  • ✨Abigail Watson✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Ugh, I used to follow a wildlife channel. The head of their YouTube had a kid, and then every other video was her repeating “can you say jackal?” over and over and OVER. I’m here for wildlife videos, not to watch your kid ignore the camera getting shoved in their face. But everyone was super positive towards the first kid video and she thought it was encouragement. For shame.

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    Storror, a UK parkour collective. Amazingly talented, made an unbelievable documentary about doing parkour on the rooftops of Asia. I still watch every week but they’ve done parkour like once in the last 3 months. Everything else is

    • We climbed this weird building
    • Can we escape from this pit?
    • We wrapped ourselves in bubble wrap
    • Stuck in a hollow tree!!

    Then there are “water challenges”, ie fairly easy jumps but you fall in a canal if you miss. One guy already had a career ending injury doing this and is now a camera man, another hurt himself badly and you can tell he’s lost patience with it.

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      I never heard of them and pulled up the channel… that’s a lot of circles and arrows pointing at things.

      Even the best soldiers can fall to click bait.

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          Oof, I blame youtube. They pay jack all on videos like that, even with 15 million views. The price is anywhere $1,200 to $6,000 per million views, based on view length. A short video like that probably was on the lower side in pay, but the time investment probably was immense. The practice, the planning, the editing, the probably hours of parkour that was cut, just the travel and flights alone…

          Compared to them just going up a weird tent thing that is padded with 20 minutes of them reacting, and I’m going to “bet” has some sort of ad/product placement.

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      I don’t watch his current content but it was bittersweet seeing the transition from his original style. He mentioned at the time that he had depression during that period and it seemed like the change was a lifestyle one as well; he seemed pretty happy around that time.

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    I remember the transition of prank channels from pranking each other in more or less controlled settings to “pranking” (harassing) strangers in public. Not saying that pranking each other was the pinnacle of comedy, there are definitely still problems with it, but why do people like watching random unrelated people being accosted at all, let alone enough for the prank channels to catch on and start catering to that crowd?

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    How about the ones that seem to have just fucking quit? Barely Sociable popped up, produced a bunch of pretty cool videos, and has just fucking disappeared. Same with Fredrick Knudsen or however you spell the name of the “Down The Rabbit Hole” guy. Apparently some noise about making a 5 hour video followed by months of radio silence. Like my dude…break that up into parts.

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      The way you phrase this comes off as incredibly entitled. Sometimes, a lot of times even, people make something and put it out there; then something else in their life happens that just pulls them away.

      They’re not beholden to continue to make anything for anyone.

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      There was a very early YouTuber and Something Awful Goon that went by the YouTube handle Research Indicates.

      Dropped the gold standard for Let’s Play videoes and then never uploaded another one again.

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      Love Fredrick. That seems to be his MO for years now. A couple releases a year that are hours long. I just hope he’s doing well.

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        He’s changed his style of uploads twice now and is an empty shell today. Just posting junk from his live streams to YouTube.

        Charlie used to not care about YouTube as a method of making money. Would donate all of his money to charity.

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          tbh he probably make a good sum of money and can life an stress free live who wouldn’t take that ?

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            I am happy for his success but sad at quality of his content.

            He’s ragging on AI generated YouTube channels, all the while the content he is churing out is just as bad.