Libs will believe whatever feels right. If you praise a country but then give the slightest criticism of it, they will focus on that criticism and forget everything else. And they’ll still call you tankies even if you try to appeal to them.

You can lead the lib to water but you can’t make him drink.

Like all communists, we reject that AES states have committed atrocities as claimed by bourgeois historians, and not only that, but that they are indefensible. There’s context behind everything and if I wouldn’t have done better in their situation then I can’t criticize a course of action.

You still seem to be operating under the assumption that the Chinese government has something to hide or is lying somehow about the Beijing riots. But everything is there and the ProleWiki page, while a bit short, has the gist of it. There was no Tiananmen Square Massacre because no deaths occurred inside the square, this is confirmed by people that were there (including student leaders). So the media calling it the TSM is simply wrong and lying. The riots happened throughout Beijing.

That the CIA also backed the protests is historically attested. That soldiers went there unarmed and were killed by some protestors is also attested historically by pictures. That the protests had slowed down as the CPC was talking to and negotiating with the more moderate, original protestors is also attested to historically on TV. That some protestors had access to weapons is attested to by pictures. That there were two factions of protestors is also attested to – there are pictures of protestors exchanging food with PLA soldiers just as there are pictures of soldiers being lynched.

Meanwhile the western media only has the testimony of a British diplomat in occupied Hong Kong (he never went to Beijing during the protests) making grandiose claims that nobody else corroborated.

We don’t need to do a both sides for it on ProleWiki, if they’re not going to believe what’s written, they’re not going to believe it.