• bobman@unilem.org
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    Can’t we just vote for younger candidates?

    Doesn’t make sense to subvert the will of the people when they clearly support this.

    Also, her age isn’t what makes her shit. She’s a corporate democrat just looking out for different rich people.

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      The problem is that this isn’t the will of the people. Preliminaries don’t count as an election so your vote for which candidate that appears on the actual ballot is just a suggestion.

      The party committees gets final say on who’s on the ballot for that party to vote for.

      Which leads to the problem of the 2 party system where we vote for the least worst candidate

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        Then vote for independents, or people whose parties don’t pull that shit.

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          And that is the problem with the 2 party system. No one votes that way because not enough people do. Instead everyone voted for less bad option between the 2 major parties. Which happen to be the choices the political committee chose, not the people.

        • kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Yeah, you might as well not vote. You’re never going to sway enough people to vote independent to challenge one of the big two, especially since the choice right now is between old people or people trying to establish a fascist theocracy.

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            Rewarding the groups that manipulate the system to hold onto power seems like a terrible way to enact change.

            Choice right now for president is between fascists and a reformed anti-lgbt bigot who remains friends with some of those fascists, seeing their anti-women, anti-trans, anti-lgbt positions as “disagreement.” I feel like we can do better.

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        Maybe in a true democracy. No more gerrymandered districts, ranked choice voting, and term limits would be a good start. Let’s kill citizens united while at it.

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          In a true democracy, we’d have direct voting.

          Which I’m a huge fan of. Not sure why we’d vote for people who won’t agree with us on everything when we can just vote ourselves and get true representation.

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          I disagree. Fundamentally we have the final authority to elect our representation. Collectively we decide (and are ultimately responsible for) who is elected to office. Districts don’t vote, and corporations don’t vote. The people do.

          It is the collective responsibility of those not disenfranchised or otherwise excluded from the political system to rectify those problems. Failing to address those problems (or any political problem) isn’t a failure of the politicians–it’s a failure of us, as a collective, to choose the appropriate lawmakers. Especially when we repeatedly elect the same people over and over.

          I know it sounds naive to frame the system this way. But fundamentally the political system operates under the collective authority of voters.