• luckyhunter@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    People will abide if they want to. The best way to make people refuse would be to “require masks”.

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      10 months ago

      And yet somehow a mandate worked for seatbelts. The people who politicised basic safety measures between then and now have blood on their hands.

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        10 months ago

        I made this argument back when the first mandates were happening. I don’t recall any major uproar about seat belts yet for some reason it’s a big deal when we do the same thing for masks.

        The craziest part of it is to me is that seat belts basically only affect the person wearing it, but masks affect both the person wearing it and the people around them. So if anything it makes more sense for masks to be mandated over seat belts.

        And not just seat belts, we already mandate clothing in the form of public exposure/indecency laws. And that doesn’t even have any tangible effect on anything. Technically we could all be running around naked but I don’t see any uproar about that either. I can at least somewhat understand wanting freedom and/or autonomy but the people complaining aren’t even consistent about it.

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          10 months ago

          Oh it was the same uproar (it’s uncomfortable, it will harm me, we’ve never had to do this before, I can’t breathe, my religion says I shouldn’t, etc.) but at least that was a bit more in face about saving your life.

          Masks… Ugh.

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            10 months ago

            Interesting choice of words because masks are literally in your face about saving your life, lol.

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          10 months ago

          There was absolutely an “uproar,” against seatbelts when they were mandated.

          It wasn’t able to get the same level of traction because you didn’t have social media echo chambers or the president and other influential “leadership” shitting all over the idea of mandates.

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          10 months ago

          When I brought up seatbelts to anti maskers they usually told me they didn’t think the government should be allowed to tell them to wear a seatbelt either. These people are idiots who will fight against self preservation on principle, bless their hearts.

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          10 months ago

          When I look around these days, I see groups of people who are all about making comparisons even when there are none to reasonably make, creating false equivalencies out of minor differences to prove non-existent points, mercilessly jumping on ANYTHING they judge as lesser – but who in turn are almost never about laissez faire/live and let live (unless it’s a big donor or a corporate entity).

          Technically we could all be running around naked but I don’t see any uproar about that either.

          Yeah. Amazing, I know, but turns out that people who like to throw stones don’t want to wear glass pants . . . so to speak.

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        10 months ago

        I have a feeling they don’t care. Just because cars have seat belts doesn’t mean people use them correctly, or at all.