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    Being an unpaid mod of a community owned by a private company that makes money selling advertising to you based based on data they collect from you.

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      it’s actually a blue collar job where they do quite a bit of physical labor, at least the good ones. I have more respect for that then a lot of white collar jobs.

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        You probably shouldn’t decide how much to respect someone for what job they do. Unless they do like a really sketchy or immoral “job”, like a hitman or a scammer or something.

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          Disagree, I think that the way someone decides to spend their time says a lot about them. Sometimes you just need to work for money, I get that, but often times people just do whatever they fell into because they’re too lazy to chase their dreams or do something actually beneficial for society

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                  I think I’m being pretty reasonable. If anything, I stated my opinion and I’m being attacked for it. I’m not trying to play victim, but all the feedback I’ve gotten from this comment is hostile

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            Because they need money to survive, and their parents can’t help them financially sp they cant get a degree in whatever field, even though every position in the field requires it?

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              I mention that sometimes this is the case and there’s nothing wrong with that. But you don’t necessarily need a degree to do meaningful work or to chase your dreams, just effort.

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      Assistant General Managers are even more serious so the sales people pick on them all the time.

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    CEOs and high ranking business people, what they get to do is not work or work significantly less than a working class people therefore I have no respect for most of em

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      The higher up you go the less work you do and the more stress you take on. You’re essentially trading your peace of mind for more money.

      When you work a simple manual labor job you clock in and clock out and then go home and live your life. Work stays at the office.

      When you’re an executive or a business owner you’re working 100% of the time. Something happens, you need to respond. Sometimes you need to make hard decisions where you’re fucked either way but you need to minimize damage.

      You need to find solutions to problems and that keeps you up at night. Don’t have enough money for payroll next week? How you gonna do it? Not pay vendors this week? Take out another line of credit at ridiculous rates? Skip a payment on your rent? Equipment financing?

      You have to do something- you stop paying your employees and the company falls apart very quickly. Could start a chain reaction of good people leaving, making the situation worse. The buck pretty much stops with you, you can’t pass off the problem to someone else.

      It’s not easy to be in charge. Lot of blame rests on your shoulders if things go wrong.

      Of course that doesn’t mean they deserve 10,000x the salary of a regular job. I think CEO pay should be capped to some multiple of regular employee pay. Whatever that scalar value should be 2, 5, or 10 I think is debatable. But it should be capped.

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        Moving from being a Product Owner, working on my own projects, to being a Product Manager who works with Product Owners on their projects/hands over projects to them, it is far more stressful. I end up being on the hook for everything, with an expectation that I know everything about a dozen projects, despite being far less actively involved in the underlying work of any of them.

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        You don’t simply clock in clock out. You walk into a space where everything you do is monitored and critiqued. You are constantly pressured to take on more work, other people’s work, you name it, all while you get paid the same… There’s a lot more flexibility and autonomy as you move up. The stress higher up is peanuts compared to the stress of the working class.

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          I’ve been at the bottom doing manual labor all the way to the top and everything in between. When I was in manual labor at 19, I thought that it was stressful. Truly. I thought I was swamped with work and was always running around with my head off like a chicken.

          But now that I’m older I realize the job was dead simple. I know that because I have more experience with both life and work. If I were put in that same position today, it would feel like a vacation.

          Imagine a waitress. Their job can be stressful, sure. But imagine they really fuck up and fall and break a few wine bottles. What’s the potential damages? $100? $200? Let’s say $1,000.

          A CEO of even a small company can fuck up and lose millions. The problems are on a whole different scale. You will see as you move up. People think it’s easy to be the boss because they only see from the outside. There’s a price you pay in sanity.

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      “Running a business is hard work, you wouldn’t believe the number of meetings-”

      Oh yeah meetings where you and “experts” on maximizing profits talk about how many people you can get away with laying off this quarter and other meetings where you work out a deal to buy a competitor startup in order to immediately and intentionally run it into the fucking ground sounds really fucking essential to the world Allan

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      Small business owner here. Just to add to the other responses about the stress and responsibility as you move up that others mentioned here… I cover every one of my employees when they take vacation or sick leave. So I am often doing my job, plus another person’s. It’s not uncommon for me to work 12 hour days without breaks.

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      They don’t take it seriously enough. They go play army man.

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          I disagree. They have the ability to kill people with little repurcussion

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            And yet people thank them for their “service” and put “thin blue line” flags in their yards. That is the kind of “too seriously” I am referring to.

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              That’s just cause those people buy into the delusion the cops have.

              But I agree with your overall point

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      Honestly in my line of work I seriously considered Police, but when I noticed it’s essentially a cult I noped out of there

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        the problem with police is that

        • the people who should work as a police officer don’t want to be a police officer

        • the people that shouldn’t work as a police want to be a police officer

        I don’t think police is inherently a bad thing. It just happens to be because people who want power over others should not have power over others.

        similar story with politicians. I’d prefer an honest politician. but the process of picking them selects for those who are dishonest.

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          Exactly, couldn’t have worded it better. Obviously not all of them all of the time, but it is what it is

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      Brb gonna go try to hack the NSA so I have something else to be stressed about

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    I’ll cop some shit for this one, but coffee baristas.

    you put some grounds in a machine, twiddle some nobs and pour milk in a wave pattern

    edit: judging by the amount of downvotes ive either pissed off all the Bachelor of Arts grads working as baristas or all the coffee snobs who still think making coffee is some sort of art that can only be done by the most highly trained baristas. Yes, I also love coffee. No, making it is not some sort of complicated thing which is the point of this post (and topic of this thread), and no, I am not disparaging anyone working as a barista (unless they are an Arts grad, sorry) because a job is a job and all jobs deserve respect

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      It isn’t making the coffee that’s hard, it’s being on your feet for 8 solid hours while getting assaulted by a Karen every 30 minutes and playing the memory game of 3 pumps vanilla no foam cinnamon powder vinti super choco-latte. The coffee is just a minor part of the job.

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      Tell me you’ve never worked in hospitality without telling me you’ve never worked in hospitality.

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        I spent years in restaurants and retail stores working thru my teens and twenties.

        The management in those places is usually a joke. Over serious, under educated people taking themselves far too seriously. They work hard because they’re inefficient most of the time, not because the jobs are actually difficult too. At least that’s the experience I had along with my friends before we got wise and gtfo of that environment.

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          Oh you should have said it bothered you, I’ll chat to the other posters and we’ll stop it.

          Sorry sniper :( x

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              You didn’t make it clear to the rest of us that it annoyed you! We’ll make sure we all tailor our behaviour so you don’t have to deal with the inconvenience of seeing a joke which you’ve deemed unacceptable.

              Please accept our sincere apologies, we shall all strive to please you more in future :) x

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      Best coffee is anywhere but the US.

      From Asia to Africa, all the shops I’ve visited had good espressos and coffee.

      Customer service is also a joke here.

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      Agreed but I think in a lot of cities they’re gauged on performance by numbers of tickets issued, gotta hate the game for this one not the player who usually don’t want that job and just need the money

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    Chef. No I’m not calling you a special title and acting like this is the military and you are my commanding officer, we work at the Olive Garden.

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    Park ranger. There are two kinds: chill and friendly, or the kind that make you show all your documents, prove your park stickers are valid, make you repark your car, and then scold you for being too loud even though the next nearest campsite is several hundred feet away and nobody has complained and you arent even being loud…

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        Nope, no music or media. Just sitting around the campfire telling stories and laughing. Sorry, but 9pm is not late, especially when quiet hour isn’t even until 10 at that particular site.

        I don’t care that you like to get up at 5:30am for your morning run, I’ll be totally quiet when the actual park rules say I have to be.